Posted on 10/30/2011 2:42:16 PM PDT by Kevmo
BREAKTHROUGH POWER TEST A SUCCESS, BUT A.P. SITS ON IT
by Joe Shea
AR Correspondent
Bradenton, Fla .
Back to home page
Printable version of this story
BRADENTON, Fla., Oct. 30, 2011 -- If you went to Google tonight and searched for the terms "E Cat Rossi Associated Press" you'd get 1,430,000 results from blogs, Web sites and magazines like Wired.com (UK edition). That number will grow .
Most are about how an Associated Press reporter attended the demonstration of a device - as the exclusive media person present during the whole test - that proceeded to generate 475,000 watts of power continuously for five hours with no input and just its secret Low Energy Nuclear Reaction device - a cold fusion reactor, in plain terms - providing power for the people who need it most - this world's billions of poor and hungry human beings.. AP Science writer Peter Svensson with Peswiki founder Sterling Allen at the workshops of Italian inventor and electrical engineer Andrea Rossi in Bologna, Italy. They were at Friday's final demonstration of a 1Mw cold fusion reactor that generated 470Kw of energy without any power input. Svensson had exclusive access during the test. The AP is sitting on the story, Joe Shea suspects. Photo: Sterling Allan/Peswiki There is substantial skepticism about Rossi and the reactor, and one critic has noted the inventor has had several brushes with the law over get-rich-quick schemes, the latest in the '90s, but always got short sentences and never went to jail. He would not be the first important inventor with an arrest record .
At the demonstration on this past Friday, Oct. 28, there was a large generator outside his workshop with cables running into the room where the demonstration was conducted. Rossi has explained to Pewwiki founder Sterling Allan that it was "absolutely cold" in the workshop and the generator was needed for heat in the fairly large space (the E Cat produces only steam usable for a turbine). Most of the videos of the demonstration show Rossi in a thin blue dress shirt, and one person present told me tonight it was "quite chilly" at the event. Most people are wearing jackets or sweaters inside, so that seems a plausible explanation. The A.P. has not yet reported anything, so we remain at least partly in the dark. In the video at left, below, sound of the generator is heard throughout, while the E Cat actually operates in complete silence. Touching it, I'm told, once can feel something bubblinside - apparently the water that makes the steam that is measured as output. The Event: Rossi E Cat Demo
Live Demo of 1Mw Cold Fusion Reactor
As for the crimes, I confess that I have been convicted of far worse and have gone to county jail once, at 16. At the same time, I've been on Page 1 in the Reader's Digest (March 1968), was invited to the White House to see the President, took the Brazilian Ambasador to dinner, was on the Hollywood LAPD Community-Police Advisory Board and also won a landmark Supreme Court First Amendment case, Shea v. Reno; I go to church every Sunday and try very hard to be a good person .
Under the circumstances that have prevailed in Rossi's life, I can see how desperation might drive a brilliant man to finagle for wealth in ways the courts always forgave. They forgave me for breaking into a cigarette machine, too, and Gov. Henry Bellmon pardoned me when I was 19. With 30 others, I invented serious journalism on the Internet, which is no small thing, when we began the American Reporter in 1995. This man, identified as Domenico Fioravanti, acted on behalf of the buyer in the transaction that purchased the 1Mw E Cat reactor for an unknown price and trucked it away. An Olympic gold medalist shares the same name. A printed signature on the transaction document was crossed out but still partly visible. It seemed to spell the abbreviation for "Colonel." Photo: Matt Lewans/NyTeknik Perhaps, like me, Rossi is a different man today. His scientific colleagues and supporters are legion, and they seem to think so. There have been no entries for Rossi in the police blotter since 1997, 14 years ago, according to his major critic, who admits he is paid for his work but will not say who pays. No one pays for our work except Google AdSense, the Benson County Farmer's News and the Progressive Populist .
But I suspect the world will wait a long time for the A.P. story. It appears, at least, that we've all been cheated of progress once again. The test was for a customer - his first name was "Colonel" - who immediately hooked up the 20-ft container it was placed in and drove it away. It is the A.P., after all, with its thousands of news outlets around the globe, which can really tell the world what has happened .
Ironically, now just a day later, 1.7 million people are without power in the blizzard hitting the Northeast, the New York Times reports. It has no story on the Rossi device as a home heater because the AP didn't write one yet. After you purchase it, the Rossi device, which is intended for homes and factories, will supply electricity for free forever. The Internet gave the U.S. economy a helluva jolt, but the E Cat would also keep 1.7 million people - an awful lot of broke families and hungry children among them - from shivering through this long cold night .
The technology has been vetted by people as diverse as scientists of U.S. Navy space and warfare division, NASA Chief Scientist Dennis Bushnell, Nobel Laureate Brian Josephson, the chairman of the energy committee of the Swedish Royal Academy of Sciences - who helps name the Nobel Prize winner in several sciences - and even the head of the Swedish Skeptics Society, there has not been a peep out of the A.P. since .
This reporter, in fact, was warned by someone named Jerome on its national desk in the early hours of Saturday morning not to be too quick to believe an A.P. Reporter was there - although his name, Peter Svensson, and picture with other journalists appears on some of those sites tonight - and I was criticized for "driving A.P. coverage" of the event .
Since the E Cat is just as important as the invention of the radio, the Internet, the light bulb and the atom bomb, and since - as DOE spokesman Sean Murphy told reporters in 2009 about the device's fundamental element, hydrogen - so it can completely replace oil by 2050, this reporter thought he was doing the A.P. a favor when he called up their national desk and told them about it just 30 hours or so before the test .
Even the fact that the test was performed for an unidentified customer whose representative, a man named Domenico Fioravanti, after the demonstration immediately bought and paid for it (for an undisclosed sum), has not persuaded the A.P. to risk shame, scorn and the rage of oil companies to do its job and report on what it sent its science writer to see. The mysterious Colonel is not the guy who will do that .
Associated Press Science Editor Kit Frieden (kfrieden@ap.org) didn't answer her phone when we called, but I'll will bet you dollars to donuts 1,500 calls from A.P. members would not get her to budge .
"There are no conspiracies," an A.P. editor in London told me. We sure wonder. The reporter himself has blamed the lack of press on the scientist, Rossi, who is apparently a difficult guy to get along with. Remember this, inventors: cultivate a winning personality before you save the world with your invention, or it will die on the vine for lack of attention .
Murphy was not talking about cold fusion, then, just about hydrogen and how it will erode the trillions of dollars earned and billions in profits on which they pay they pay little or no tax .
The device that can do that, scientists and science writers and many more believe, is the cold fusion marvel Italian electrical engineer Andrea Rossi demonstrated all day long on Friday, before about 30 of them. When he immediately sold it, the University of Bologna in Italy, one of the oldest universities in the world, became the site of one of the greatest inventions in world history .
Even though it was my 3 a.m. call that got the A.P. writer sent to the demonstration, I had no stake other than deep interest in any part of it. My stake is humanity's stake: freedom from oil and all the loss, the wars and the terror it creates .
Please do your part to make certain the world finds out.
because... maybe you have a reading comprehension problem.
Please cite your source for the 14,700 replications of cold fusion you mentioned twice in recent posts.
***I have done so, multiple times, on LENR threads. So you go fetch.
Also, you never explained whose posts you wanted removed.
***If you understood what I wrote you would not be writing that sentence. I have explained it, and you have not understood it even though it was very simple. My conclusion is, yes, you have a reading comprehension problem.
A simple question. Do you know or not. If you don’t care to say then why take the time to make silly comments about reading comprehension?
I'll look for the no steam experiment data - And your viewpoint of subtracting W(e) from W(t) as if the two were in any fashion equal?
Abide by FR rules and your posts won't get pulled. I told you I didn't have a problem with your insults. Now what's the source for the 14,700 number?
Kevmo probably has no idea. I know where the figure came from, and it’s incorrect.
I bet if Rossi could see how Kevmo defends him, Rossi would probably tell him to shut the hell up.
You just described Rossi and yourself. No facts, just name calling and diversions.
*** I posted the thread where we’re trying to prove or disprove this is a fraud. The record shows that none of the naysayers who have been hovering around these threads have contributed even to the filling in of one field of the knowledge matrix.
You just keep posting about your boy Rossi,
***I keep posting about LENR
the felon with a history of
***felon, yes. The guy has obvious issues.
fraud
***Tax Fraud. The same guvmint that accepted his fuel tax payments — so that means he was generating fuel, doesn’t it?
and how this is not fraud this time. Yeah, right.
***I’m saying look at the evidence. Look at what others besides Rossi have to say. If they are all in on a giant conspiracy then your position becomes far less believable.
Even his patent was rejected for not being of a sound scientific and logical basis.
***His patent is still pending.
We contributed plenty as to how this is a scam.
***Not on that thread where it was asked. Look at just this one post, where what you are contributing turns out not to be factual. If what you have contributed is not factual, what value is it?
Unfortunately for you, you lack even a basic scientific knowledge, even of the junior high school kind.
***And yet, there are guys with advanced science degrees who are angry at me for pointing out, time and again, their usage of classical logical fallacies? Something doesn’t add up. It is this conclusion you have arrived at. I know what level of scientific training I have, so it’s easy for me to see how far wrong you are. There are plenty of other things that do not add up as well.
You lack business knowledge to understand product development and how he is violating every sound principle of business
***I have questioned his business tactics in the past. But others have shown me that his crazy-like-a-fox approach is actually strategically sound.
but follows the very pattern of a scam.
***Then follow the pattern to its conclusion. If he’s a scam artist, how is it that he got so many other scientists to say that he’s onto something? Are they REAL STUPID, or are they part of the ever-growing conspiracy? How did he get a customer to buy this thing? They’re REAL Stupid or they are also part of this widening conspiracy house-of-cards. My prediction: You will not answer this contention.
Your gullibility has lead you to be hostile to such reasoning and experience.
***No, it is my critical thinking skills that have lead me to such hostility because there are so many FReepers who claim advanced degrees who exhibit so many logical fallacies.
Instead, you are just cock sure
***No, but I’m convinced enough to try to get naysayers such as yourself to put their money where their mouth is. No one has done so, but they managed to get the thread pulled. Why is it that your colleagues are such big whiners?
this is not a scam even though you have not one single solitary fact yo back you up.
***I’ll match facts with you if you’re willing to put up something worth pursuing, like money on the table.
Well, you are exactly the type of feeble minded person he neeeds to make money; someone with an emotion desire but without any non-emotional reasoning.
***It is your emotional reasoning which does not allow you to think inductively, to look past the red flags of Rossi’s previous issues to see the ‘forensic’ evidence he has generated.
Someone that he could give any excuse to and get his way.
***I will take your excuses too, if you put money on the table. But you won’t. Because what you say does not line up with what you do.
I’ll help you out. The 14,700 apparently comes from someone at the Chinese Academy of Science and has passed into “everyone knows” lore.
If you have said that in a post please show us, Really!
What are you going on about?
I gave you a simple answer.
Abide by FR rules and your posts won’t get pulled.
***Then the personal attacks by the others will get pulled as well. Good.
I have nothing to post to you about LENR because you ain’t worth the pulled posts.
Thanks for bumping the thread.
I know where the figure came from, and it’s incorrect.
***Feel free to refute it. But... I know you won’t.
Is that true? No wonder you don't want to name your source.
How could Dr. He of Chinese Academy of Science fame be wrong?
“I bet if Rossi could see how Kevmo defends him, Rossi would probably tell him to shut the hell up.”
I think I’m having too much fun.
I have nothing further to post to you on LENR... you know the rest.
How could Dr. He of Chinese Academy of Science fame be wrong?
*** As I have posted upthread, feel free to refute it. In the meantime why don’t you go and whine to the mods and say that Kevmo was being mean an’ using the word ‘seagull’. No doubt your feelings were hurt.
I know, isn’t that a great source? Small wonder Kevmo didn’t want to admit the citation.
Kevmo probably read it while studying with Rossi at Kensington University...
I hope you can point me in the right direction, as the only data I can find on a no-steam test was the 18 hour test, where an average of 80w(e) was inputted, with a minimum of 20w, and 15kW(t) was measured as output. Since the energy inputted is 14.4kW(e), and 15kW(t) output, you're within a statistical margin of error of the waste energy from an incandescent light bulb (2% efficiency.)
If there's more solid methodology and detailed power input/output information, that would be of great help here.
Kinda hard to track down but that won't keep it from being regurgitated at every opportunity.
Kensington U. may be the mysterious customer. Shouldn’t take much to heat a diploma mill.
Disclaimer: Opinions posted on Free Republic are those of the individual posters and do not necessarily represent the opinion of Free Republic or its management. All materials posted herein are protected by copyright law and the exemption for fair use of copyrighted works.