Posted on 10/30/2011 2:42:16 PM PDT by Kevmo
Popular on the Internet? So what? That doesn’t prove anything. What kind of retarded logic is that? “Well, it is popular on the Internet so it must not be a scam.” *whew* I am sure glad the Internet solved that issue. /s
Half a megawatt E-cat in Bologna
UPDATED.
http://www.nyteknik.se/nyheter/energi_miljo/energi/article3303682.ece?service=mobile
Half a megawatt thermal power in self sustained mode, for over five hours. Thats what Andrea Rossi obtained with his E-cat plant on Friday, according to his customer. The question now is who the customer was.
(Swedish version here).
At about quarter past ten on Friday October 28, the test of Andrea Rossis heat plant, potentially producing one megawatt, was initiated in an industrial hangar in Bologna.
The plant consisted of more than 100 ‘energy catalyzers’ Rossis invention that possibly produces heat from a hitherto unknown nuclear reaction connected in parallel.
Already in January 2011 when the E-cat was demonstrated publicly for the first time before a group of invited scientists and journalists in Bologna, Rossi promised the launch of a one megawatt plant in October.
The test was supposed to be performed together with the Greek company Defkalion, and later, after a breach of contract in August, in the US. Finally, as the US agreement was never put in place, the test was performed in Bologna under the control of a yet unknown customer to Rossi.
According to the customers controller, Domenico Fioravanti, the plant released 2,635 kWh during five and a half hours of self sustained mode, which is equivalent to an average power of 479 kilowatts just under half the promised power of one megawatt.
Rossi explained this with the customers priority to achieve self sustained mode, which supposedly makes the process more difficult to control than when electrical power is supplied to support the reaction.
We had to decrease the power during self sustained mode as the temperature rose too much, Rossi said after the test.
Neither Ny Teknik nor any other of the guests had any possibility to check the measurements made. The invitees could only observe the plant in operation for a few brief moments.
Assuming that the report is correct (the report can be downloaded hear, the temperature data here), a substantial amount of energy was released, which is difficult to explain by anything other than heat being developed inside the E-cat, even if you subtract the power input during pre-heating.
UPDATE: There are two minor errors in the report. Se below.
According to the report the test was approved and the plant would now be transported to the customer where it supposedly will be part of an agreement on further tests in order to develop the technology.
It remains unclear who the customer is. Rossi has only indicated that it belongs to a particular category of organizations. One possibility is that its a military organization given that the title of the controller Fioravanti in the report is colonel, however, scored out with a pen.
Rossi stated that an agreed contract research at the University of Bologna can now be initiated and that discussions on collaboration with Uppsala University can get started.
Theres still no clear indication of when a test performed by independent experts can be done, although this is still what both readers of Ny Teknik and most experts Ny Teknik has spoken to demand.
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READ MORE: Our complete coverage on Rossi’s E-cat can be found here.
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More details on the test here below.
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UPDATE: David Roberson who made one of three analyses that Ny Teknik published last week on the October 6 test , has made an updated analysis here, which he claims contains proof that the E-cat generated a large amount of excess energy.
Also Horace Heffner’s analysis has been updated.
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UPDATE 2: There are two minor errors in the customer’s report:
1. The weight of the hydrogen bottle should be in grams, not kg as indicated.
2. The indicated flow rate of the pumps at the end of the report should be 350 kg/hour, not 750 kg/hour, giving a total of 700 kg/h, not 1,500 kg/h, for the two pumps.
(The measured average flow rate of 675.6 l/h in the first part of the report should be correct).
Fakta This is how the test was done
According to the report the plant consisted of 107 modules. Ny Teknik, however, counted 52 modules inside the container, and 64 additional modules mounted on the container roof a total of 116.
Two pumps supplied the modules with cooling water which was heated to boiling and the steam was led out to four large fan-cooled heat dissipators. The water was then returned to the pumps through a water tank.
The customers controller, Domenico Fioravanti, measured the temperature of the steam at the outlet outside the container and the inlet water temperature. Andrea Rossi measured in addition to this temperature of a large number of the modules.
According to the controller Fioravanti, power from the genset was switched on to the heating resistors in the modules around 10.30, with an initial power of 120 kW, which was gradually increased to 180 kW.
At 12.30 began self sustained mode, which means that the power to the resistors which are used to “ignite” the process was shut down. The plant then ran without any energy input other than the fans and the pumps for five and a half hours.
The total energy released between 12:30 and 18:00 was calculated from the amount of water heated and evaporated. The water flow was measured with two water meters, and according to the controllers report the energy amounted to a total of 2635 kWh.
Subtracting the energy for pumps and fans, amounting to 66 kWh, this equals a net energy of 2569 kWh, which corresponds to an average power of 467 kW.
Subtracting the energy supplied during startup, about 320 kWh at an average power of 160 kW, the net energy would still be 2249 kWh. In this case the energy output during startup should also be estimated and added.
According to measurements of radiation made by David Bianchini from the University of Bologna no radiation above background level was registered.
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“by people as diverse as scientists of U.S. Navy space and warfare division”
That is a bold faced lie. Why do you insist on posting such propaganda/lies as this? First off, there is no such thing as the “U.S. Navy space and warfare division”. lol!
Once GE gets control of the patents, they’ll report on it. Until then it doesn’t exist.
Rossi Energy Catalyzer Next Step Announced
by admin on October 30, 2011
After the successful October 28 private test in Bologna recently, Italian inventor Andrea Rossi officially announced that an agreed contract research at the University of Bologna can now be initiated. As if the contract agreement is not enough, Rossi further stated that discussions on collaboration with Uppsala University can get started. Now, that is indeed a big project to look forward to. The adventure of Rossi Energy Catalyzer has come a long way now and there is no denying that it follows the right path.
In January 2011, Rossis e-cat was demonstrated publicly for the first time. The inventor promised to launch a one megawatt in October. The device received tremendous following in the internet. Many people have shown their interest and hope for the e-cats success. On the other hand, a great deal of skepticism also took centerstage. Rossi even called them snakes whose only intention is to discredit and blackmail him. Rossi Energy Catalyzer has surmounted all these trials in what seemed like a rollercoaster adventure.
Although Rossis e-cat failed to produce the exact amount promised, at about quarter past ten on Friday October 28, the test of Andrea Rossis heat plant, potentially producing one megawatt, was initiated in an industrial hangar in Bologna. Instead, it produced half a megawatt power thermal in self sustained mode, for over five hours. The plant released 2,635 kWh, which is equivalent to an average power of 479 kilowatts just under half the promised power of one megawatt.
Rossi Energy Catalyzer is slowly taking the physics world in storm. With its potential benefits to the world in general, many people express their joy knowing the possibility of getting an unbelievably cheap, safe and environmentally friendly source of energy. The impact of this invention is truly great and how it will transform the world is something we can only imagine as of the moment until thorough research and rigorous tests are completed.
Something must smell rotten to the AP reporter to NOT report this story. Everything Rossi is doing makes it look like a scam. If it’s not, then great we will soon have some cheap safe energy. If it is then many people will have been suckered out of their money and hopes crushed.
I will remain a skeptic until something with real proof is provided. Right now we just have a magic show.
Anyone know any particular reason WHY he decided to call it the “E-cat”? Seems like a silly name.
Kind of reminds me of the world of Linux where most apps/software have silly/nonsensical names. For example, one of the best web proxy software apps ever developed was called...... “Squid” (God, WHY? LOL)
The problem here isn’t that the AP is sitting on a story.
The problem is that the people behind this project must have their collective heads up their rears with regard to PR.
I can think of a dozen publications that would print this story.
Shame on the AP if they’re scuttling the story (not sure what their angle might be, to be honest) but they’re not the (only?) villains here.
Since we don't use oil to generate power for the grid, this is no threat to the oil companies.
Start here.
Navy Chemist May Have Rediscovered ‘Cold Fusion’
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/2214837/posts
Wednesday, March 25, 2009 5:17:10 PM · by nickcarraway · 38 replies · 2,029+ views
Fos News ^ | Wednesday, March 25, 2009
E-Cat is short for Energy Catalyzer
Something must smell rotten to the AP reporter to NOT report this story.
***Then he has a duty to report the fraud, right?
There is always a back story when someone isn’t doing their job. Like when a police officer won’t enforce an obvious law, or when a company refuses to make a profit on their own product or a real estate agent won’t accept a higher offer than asked or when the IRS forgives a tax debt or a reporter doesn’t report or the supreme court doesn’t take up such a fundamental constitutional question as whether a foreign national should be president... the list goes on.
Although there IS a Space and Naval Warfare Systems Command (SPAWAR)
I have to say, directly subtracting W(e) from W(t) seems to result in a gross exaggeration in the resulting power. Nuclear power plants, with rather good heat exchangers and turbines, tend to get 1/4 of the W(t) converted to W(e). This is not the first time this, to categorize it generously, 'error' has been used to compute resulting energy from the E-Cat.
I am eager to see more through testing done on this system, especially the data on the quality of steam produced. It is interesting that Rossi's initial estimations of the required number of catalyzer to produce 1MW was 300, yet his demonstration used just over a third that number. Did he ever address this during the brief question and answer session afterward?
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