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Here’s the truth, Mr Rove. Romney will lose because at least 25% of base conservatives — like me — will refuse to vote for him for anything ever.

Now, roll that around in your brain for a bit and decide what you want to do. If you keep pushing Romney, then I’m sure you want Obama to remain president for whatever reason that might be.

I am going with some conservative other than Romney in the general. Buy a clue. Romney will lose. Proceed at your own peril.

You nailed it. I’m so sick of people saying, “Anybody but obama, and if you don’t vote for ‘anybody’ you ensure four more years of this.” It is not anybody but obama, and if the GOP floats a RINO I will not vote for him. If obama gets another four years it’s not because of me, it’s because of the GOP.

As I keep saying: Both parties are steering us toward socialism, it’s just that one party is driving a little faster than the other. It is for this reason that I will not vote for a RINO pres, even if it means four more years of obama. I believe a revolution is in our midst. If obama gets reelected because of voters like me, I will be able to fight in that revolution. If a RINO is elected because conservatives hold their noses and vote for the RINO, my children will have to fight the revolution. I would rather fight that battle for them.

Here’s the truth, Mr Rove.Romney will lose because at least 25% of base conservatives — like me — will refuse to vote for him for anything ever.

I was explaining this to a liberal friend who thinks obama is done. He was stunned. Then I explained how Pro-Lifers vote and why. We are pragmatic up to a point, but we will never vote for a pro-abortion nominee.

I would think that after Romney refused to back the Pubs in Ohio a lot of fiscal conservatives will think twice about supporting him.

Rove is a brilliant tactician in messaging and issue identification. However, he comes from that blue blood elitist wing of the Pub party that doesn't like social conservatives, or the great unwashed main street crowd. If the Pubs blow it either because of open primaries, or because the conservatives split their vote between Perry and Cain we could end up with a third party that propels the Rats back into dominance. I'm convinced the "blue bloods" would prefer the Rats are in charge rather than a bunch of middle class heathens.

Someone on an earlier thread said that if Romney got the nod, that Palin and Trump would form a 3rd Party. Hey, I’m down for it. I’m tired of there not being a friggin’ dime’s worth of difference between the corrupt Dems and the corrupt Pubbies. I’ve been on the inside of political campaigns and I tell you the truth; they are brutally two-faced and power hungry. Most of them would cut their mother’s throat to keep their power and money.

I feel like you, wish I had voted for Buchanan in 2000 but was warned we had to have GWB to “save the republic.” Not that Pat could get any votes of course, but I would have felt better about myself. And, yes, I generally disagree with Pat on the Middle East.