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To: Carbonsteel
The problem is too much welfare; not too few restrictions on welfare recipients. I think the decision was a good one. As with all federal government regulations, this one opened the door to even more intrusiveness against all citizens.

We must work to reduce welfare in this country -- not just accept it and try to make the recipients' lives miserable to compensate.

4 posted on 10/24/2011 3:21:56 PM PDT by BfloGuy (Even the opponents of Socialism are dominated by socialist ideas.)
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To: BfloGuy

I disagree. Volunteering to go collect my money means you have to follow my rules. Don’t like it, leave my money on the table and get a job.


9 posted on 10/24/2011 3:25:01 PM PDT by Scotsman will be Free (11C - Indirect fire, infantry - High angle hell - We will bring you, FIRE)
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To: BfloGuy

“We must work to reduce welfare in this country — not just accept it and try to make the recipients’ lives miserable to compensate.”

????? Let the worthless slug take all the dope he wants. Just not on MY nickel!!!!


12 posted on 10/24/2011 3:26:29 PM PDT by jivin gene (Breakin' up is hard to do)
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To: BfloGuy

Would you consider this similar to DUI checkpoints in being forced to submit to a test where no probable cause exists?


16 posted on 10/24/2011 3:33:10 PM PDT by mgstarr ("Some of us drink because we're not poets." Arthur (1981))
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To: BfloGuy

I think the testing was a good idea. I believe that initially, the testing cost ... but the study said that it cost less than the money saved to the recipients. They didn’t have any way to measure how many people just didn’t apply BECAUSE of the testing requirement and there were some that, for some reason, hadn’t been measured.

When a recipient takes the dollars and has a drug habit, it has a ripple effect. They aren’t responsible with the money. Their kids are usually running around being “raised” by the community. If they get foodstamps, they are also selling them for drugs...and hitting up food pantries, emptying THOSE out.

And you are enabling all of that.

Maybe there should be a compassion clause, though, where if someone needs the help and has an addiction...they can claim it and comply with treatment.


19 posted on 10/24/2011 3:36:11 PM PDT by Winstons Julia (Hello OWS? We don't need a revolution like China's; China needs a revolution like OURS.)
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To: BfloGuy

You would not believe the number of people who sell their food stamps at 50 cents to a dollar to subsidized their alcohol and drug habits. Sell their prescription drugs to purchase stronger drugs. And finally due to recent events, collect welfare while joining the Occupy crowd to get free food and shelter (tents are better than what they had).


21 posted on 10/24/2011 3:37:46 PM PDT by BushCountry (Make Love Not Kinetic Military Action)
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To: BfloGuy

I am subject to a possible drug test every day I show up to earn those tax dollars confiscated from my paycheck as a nurse. No one is forcing them to accept welfare.


27 posted on 10/24/2011 3:44:49 PM PDT by myprecious
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To: BfloGuy
"We must work to reduce welfare in this country"

Don't worry. That problem will take care of itself real soon...

38 posted on 10/24/2011 4:22:14 PM PDT by gorush (History repeats itself because human nature is static)
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To: BfloGuy
"We must work to reduce welfare in this country -- not just accept it and try to make the recipients' lives miserable to compensate"

Make their lives miserable? You gotta be joking!

Using welfare to fund drug habits is not my idea of something that should NOT be addressed IMMEDIATELY.

Yes; once we get the users/parasites off the Public Dole, they can recognize that WORKING is a way of EARNING income. Continuing to fund crack habits and 4th Genration Welfare as a way-of-life has NOT WORKED....time to cut the umbilical cord, and let the parasites find a LEGAL way to survive....it's "Tough Love" that needs to be laid down.

53 posted on 10/24/2011 5:13:10 PM PDT by traditional1 ("Don't gotsta worry 'bout no mo'gage, don't gotsta worry 'bout no gas; Obama gonna take care o' me!)
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