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Police: Walking to Kever Rachel Out of the Question
Arutz Sheva ^ | 24/10/11

Posted on 10/24/2011 11:29:48 AM PDT by Eleutheria5

Tens of thousands of Jews are expected to visit the Tomb of Rachel next week on the occasion of her “hilula” celebrations, but police warned Monday that the area was very sensitive, and that there were “serious threats” to visitors. Police officials were speaking at at a meeting of the Knesset Public Affairs Committee, responding to requests by MKs that visitors be allowed to approach the site on foot, instead of being required to take a short bus ride from Jerusalem. The ride is inconvenient visitors to waste much time waiting on line and crowding onto buses for an uncomfortable ride, the MKs said.

Police officials at the meeting said that approaching the site on foot would be like entering Area A, under total PA control – in other words, a bad idea. In just the past ten months, the officials said, there were 14 incidents of rocks and firebombs being thrown at visitors to the site. “There are warnings of violence and terror incidents all the time – and they are all real and immediate,” the officials said.

(Excerpt) Read more at israelnationalnews.com ...


TOPICS: Extended News; Israel; News/Current Events; War on Terror
KEYWORDS: havewon; rachelstomb; terrorists; walking
I better not walk to my bathroom to puke. A terrorist might get me.
1 posted on 10/24/2011 11:29:54 AM PDT by Eleutheria5
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To: Eleutheria5
She's not your ancestor, or a religious figure, or part of your history ... she's your grandmother!

Go and visit and bring AK's and let the world condemn you for it.

There's a remnant still ... you're not alone.

2 posted on 10/24/2011 11:41:32 AM PDT by knarf (I say things that are true ... I have no proof ... but they're true)
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To: knarf

Actually, she’s my great aunt, unless I’m from the tribe of Binyamin, Ephraim or Menashe. I have reason to believe that I’m from Judah. But same difference. Auntie/Grandma Rachel is in trouble. Let’s stand by kin.


3 posted on 10/24/2011 11:45:08 AM PDT by Eleutheria5 (End the occupation. Annex today.)
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4 posted on 10/24/2011 12:44:37 PM PDT by DJ MacWoW (America! The wolves are here! What will you do?)
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To: Eleutheria5
You know, it's absolutely bizarre. The Jewish claim to 'Eretz Yisra'el is based on the assumed accuracy of the Bible, yet many Jews (especially in the United States) won't make that argument because they seem to be allergic to "Biblical literalism."

I actually read a comment to an article in (I believe) the Jerusalem Post that said Jews don't like Evangelicals because of their "literal interpretation" of the Bible. Excuse me? Come again???

How did Jews become allergic to their own holy book and to their oldest and most valid claim to 'Eretz Yisra'el? I can understand if the writer was referring to the literal interpretation of the "new testament," but I doubt very seriously if that was the intention (he could have said "their literal interpretation of the new testament" but did not). Most attacks on "Biblical literalism" have nothing to do with the "new testament" at all but are instead condemnations of the literal interpretation of Genesis. Isn't that the book where G-d gifted the land to Abraham and his descendants? Isn't it the book that tells of the death and burial of the 'Avot and 'Immahot?

For Jews to war against "Biblical literalism" when they're having to against Arab/islamic claims that there never was a Temple in Jerusalem is simply psychotic.

5 posted on 10/24/2011 1:21:24 PM PDT by Zionist Conspirator (Ki-hagoy vehamamlakhah 'asher lo'-ya`avdukh yove'du; vehagoyim charov yecheravu.)
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“For Jews to war against “Biblical literalism” when they’re having to against Arab/islamic claims that there never was a Temple in Jerusalem is simply psychotic.”

You just answered your question. “Ein adam over aveira ela im ken nichnas bo ruach shtut.”

“Man does not sin unless he goes nuts.” (loose translation of my own)


6 posted on 10/24/2011 1:27:13 PM PDT by Eleutheria5 (End the occupation. Annex today.)
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7 posted on 10/24/2011 5:11:42 PM PDT by SJackson (Haven't changed the environment, just take a bath. Eat a piece of chocolate. You need one. Michelle)
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To: Zionist Conspirator

“How did Jews become allergic to their own holy book?”

To accept it requires an often a heavy and scary responsibility -— a point which is OK with me, as G-d helps.

The reason that used to get me is it’s unfair and undemocratic. To me, a modern 21st century man, a person should be free to pick their own fate, not be “chosen.”


8 posted on 10/25/2011 8:56:08 AM PDT by Jewbacca (The residents of Iroquois territory may not determine whether Jews may live in Jerusalem.)
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And, in clarification, I will accept being chosen. Cheerfully, even.

I, however, reserve the right to bitch about it when I feel like it.


9 posted on 10/25/2011 8:57:38 AM PDT by Jewbacca (The residents of Iroquois territory may not determine whether Jews may live in Jerusalem.)
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To: Jewbacca
The message I'm getting from your two posts is--and please correct me if I am wrong--that much Jewish (especially American Jewish) antagonism to "Biblical literalism" and to Protestant "Bible thumpers" (who constantly invoke Genesis 12:1-3 and their devotion to it) is guilt of being the Chosen People. That's an interesting take on it.

It'd just be nice if they'd direct some of that ire towards their ancient ancestors who wrote the Bible in the first place instead of displacing it onto people who stumbled onto that Bible at some time in history and became devoted to it.

You know, that could be the reason some Jews are prouder of Jewish Nobel Prize recipients than they are of Moses, Joshua, Pinechas, and Kalev.

10 posted on 10/25/2011 9:06:42 AM PDT by Zionist Conspirator (Ki-hagoy vehamamlakhah 'asher lo'-ya`avdukh yove'du; vehagoyim charov yecheravu.)
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11 posted on 10/25/2011 10:05:39 AM PDT by TheOldLady (FReepmail me to get ON or OFF the ZOT LIGHTNING ping list)
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To: Zionist Conspirator

“Jewish (especially American Jewish) antagonism to “Biblical literalism” and to Protestant “Bible thumpers” (who constantly invoke Genesis 12:1-3 and their devotion to it) is guilt of being the Chosen People.”

Very close. To the extent there is “guilt” it would be “not living up to the expectations” of being the Chosen People. Being a rather nasty and flawed person, I have that guilt.

And some guilt, in that I recognize I am nothing special. I do strongly believe that All Men Are Created Equal, so for me to be “Chosen” is patently absurd to my logical and democrat mind. (This is somewhat amelerated in that I also know that people are free to become Jewish, if they so chose.)

But also, “Hey I didn’t ask to play this game and You can’t make me!” Or to quote Fiddler’s Roof “Hashem, if would not be so much trouble, go Chose some other people some time.”

In short, accepting Biblical truth is a shocking burden, responsibility and offensive to 21st Century notions of fairness and freedom.


12 posted on 10/25/2011 11:44:20 AM PDT by Jewbacca (The residents of Iroquois territory may not determine whether Jews may live in Jerusalem.)
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To: Jewbacca
In short, accepting Biblical truth is a shocking burden, responsibility and offensive to 21st Century notions of fairness and freedom.

I suppose it is. Even the most devout Protestant "Bible-thumper" doesn't really accept the total Biblical worldview because he adulterates it with chr*stianity and reads everything through a "new testament" prism.

13 posted on 10/25/2011 12:01:31 PM PDT by Zionist Conspirator (Ki-hagoy vehamamlakhah 'asher lo'-ya`avdukh yove'du; vehagoyim charov yecheravu.)
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