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The birthers eat their own (...proof birthers are non-partisan but also racist???)
Washington Post ^ | October 21, 2011 | Dana Milbank

Posted on 10/21/2011 7:03:48 PM PDT by Seizethecarp

Say what you will about the birthers, but don’t call them partisan.

The people who brought you the Barack Obama birth-certificate hullabaloo now have a new target: Sen. Marco Rubio of Florida, a man often speculated to be the next Republican vice presidential nominee. While they’re at it, they also have Bobby Jindal, the Republican governor of Louisiana and perhaps a future presidential candidate, in their sights.

The good news for the birthers is that this suggests they were going after Obama, whose father was a Kenyan national, not because of the president’s political party. The bad news is that this supports the suspicion that they were going after Obama because of his race.

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TOPICS: Constitution/Conservatism; Crime/Corruption; News/Current Events; Politics/Elections
KEYWORDS: birther; bobbyjindal; jindal; marcorubio; naturalborncitizen; obama; rubio
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To: Seizethecarp

“The bad news is that this supports the suspicion that they were going after Obama because of his race.”

He’s ineligible....period.

He was and continues to be attacked because of his Marxist policies ....or, should I say Soro’s policies? (AND...he’s INELIGIBLE)


21 posted on 10/21/2011 7:45:40 PM PDT by Mortrey (Impeach President Soros)
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To: Crazy ole coot

Boy you guys are something else.

NOT according to the 14th Amendment:

June 13, 1866

States ratify 14th Amendment, granting former slaves citizenship and promising “equal protection of the laws”

National Archives and Records Administration
Passed by Congress June 13, 1866. Ratified July 9, 1868.

Note: Article I, section 2, of the Constitution was modified by section 2 of the Fourteenth Amendment.

Section 1.
All persons born or naturalized in the United States, and subject to the jurisdiction thereof, are citizens of the United States and of the State wherein they reside. No State shall make or enforce any law which shall abridge the privileges or immunities of citizens of the United States; nor shall any State deprive any person of life, liberty, or property, without due process of law; nor deny to any person within its jurisdiction the equal protection of the laws


22 posted on 10/21/2011 7:55:26 PM PDT by marty60
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To: Seizethecarp

Milbank is steeped in hatred and racism. The “birther” associations he draws are far weaker than the credible associations tying Bayrock to organized crime.
When Milbank and his ilk are shrieking about birthers, they are clearly hoping to take up band width that could go to looking at the crimes of the w0n.


23 posted on 10/21/2011 7:55:40 PM PDT by Steamburg (The contents of your wallet is the only language Politicians understand.)
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To: Seizethecarp
Obama, whose father was a Kenyan national,

Constitution...we don't need no stinkin' Constitution.

24 posted on 10/21/2011 7:57:13 PM PDT by Don Corleone ("Oil the gun..eat the cannoli. Take it to the Mattress.")
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To: federal__reserve

I believe his mom was a citizen and his dad (if his dad was the Kenyen on his BC) was not. Barry is not a NBC and there will forever be an asterik next to his name.


25 posted on 10/21/2011 7:58:40 PM PDT by wolfman23601
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To: Tex-Con-Man

Birthers are old news.

Fast and Furious is the new news.


26 posted on 10/21/2011 7:58:49 PM PDT by bigoil (Study Thy Nixon)
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To: marty60

Ahnold Schwarzenneger is a citizen. Is he constitutionally eligbile to be POTUS?

We know what you are...


27 posted on 10/21/2011 8:06:22 PM PDT by Hotlanta Mike (TeaNami)
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To: Seizethecarp

” proving false the central narrative of Rubio’s political rise: that he is the son of exiles who fled Cuba under Castro.
In fact, his parents left the island, apparently for economic reasons, 2 1 / 2 years before Castro came to power. “

Apparently the Rubios should have ignored the warning signs of impending doom and waited until it was too late.


28 posted on 10/21/2011 8:06:22 PM PDT by Wild Irish Rogue
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29 posted on 10/21/2011 8:09:09 PM PDT by RedMDer (Forward With Confidence!)
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To: Seizethecarp

Seems to me that it supports just the opposite. No media type seems capable of grasping that it is a Constitutional question and that’s not situational. So whether it is a Marxist Organizer or a Tea Party favorite, “natural born” has a specific meaning and applies regardless or race, color, creed, or political party.


31 posted on 10/21/2011 8:11:51 PM PDT by NonValueAdded (So much stress was put on Bush's Fault that it finally let go, magnitude 6)
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To: marty60

The 14th Amendment has to do with citizenship, period. If you’re born here and your parents are legal resident aliens, then you’re considered a citizen by birth, or native born.

The Federal government recognizes three types of statutory citizenship:
-native born (jus solis)
-derived citizenship from parents (jus sanquinis)
-naturalization

See: http://www.uscis.gov/portal/site/uscis/menuitem.eb1d4c2a3e5b9ac89243c6a7543f6d1a/?vgnextoid=a2ec6811264a3210VgnVCM100000b92ca60aRCRD&vgnextchannel=a2ec6811264a3210VgnVCM100000b92ca60aRCRD

The 14th Amendment has nothing to do with eligibility requirements to be President per Article 2, Section 1, clause 5 of the U.S.Constitution. Natural born citizenship is NOT a type of citzenship. It is an eligibility requirement to be President.


32 posted on 10/21/2011 8:16:09 PM PDT by SatinDoll (NO FOREIGN NATIONALS AS U.S.A. PRESIDENT)
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To: ASA Vet

Love this! Thanks!


33 posted on 10/21/2011 8:22:51 PM PDT by classified
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To: Seizethecarp

I totally despise Dana Milbank. I saw him on MSNBC with his crewcut and little nerd glasses, and changed the channel in disgust (as I usually do with MSNBC). These smug little commie creeps bashed the birthers for years, and now Dana’s on their side?


34 posted on 10/21/2011 8:25:49 PM PDT by ozzymandus
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To: Vendome

My son was born in the UK of parents who were both USA citizens. He is a dual national with two passports. He can hold any office in the United States with the exception of President or Vice President.

The Constitution means what it says.


35 posted on 10/21/2011 8:25:59 PM PDT by cpdiii (Deckhand, Roughneck, Mud Man, Geologist, Pilot, Pharmacist. THE CONSTITUTION IS WORTH DYING FOR!)
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To: marty60
Once again you seem to be throwing out the words "natural born" when you consider the Constitutional qualification to be President. Note well that those words do NOT appear in the 14th amendment nor does the subject of Presidential qualification. Rubio's CITIZENSHIP is NOT the issue. His ability to meet the NATURAL BORN CITIZEN qualification IS the issue. You yourself peg the 14th's ratification date at 1868. Almost a decade LATER the Supreme Court actually touched on the subject in the case 88 U.S. 162 - Minor v. Happersett and spoke to what the framers meant by Natural Born while at the same time recognizing the 14th Amendment elsewhere in the case.
At common-law, with the nomenclature of which the framers of the Constitution were familiar, it was never doubted that all children born in a country of parents who were its citizens became themselves, upon their birth, citizens also. These were natives, or natural-born citizens, as distinguished from aliens or foreigners. Some authorities go further and include as citizens children born within the jurisdiction without reference to the citizenship of their parents. As to this class there have been doubts, but never as to the first. For the purposes of this case it is not necessary to solve these doubts.
Yes, the Justices noted that there is a second school of thought and also with their own words say that they were not settling the question. Sadly, SCOTUS ducked the issue and left the doubts in place. So Obama's qualification and therefore Jindal's are much as settled law as anthropogenic global warming is settled science.
36 posted on 10/21/2011 8:30:33 PM PDT by NonValueAdded (So much stress was put on Bush's Fault that it finally let go, magnitude 6)
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To: Hotlanta Mike

ohhhh I’m so scared. You Aryan Brotherhood types are incapable of even getting it up.


37 posted on 10/21/2011 8:33:07 PM PDT by marty60
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To: marty60
“You might want to rethink your bigotry towards Rubio...”

You might want to retract your unfounded smear! You are as bad as Milbank.

The whole point of my response to Milbank’s charge of racism is that holding a research-based opinion on what the constitution means is not racist, it is simply logical, especially if applied evenhandedly to all races.

BTW, I love the Miami Cubans...especially the women who rank among the most beautiful I have encountered as a group. I used to supervise a whole department full of them and they were good workers. I got hooked on their AM pick-me-up Cuban coffee. You would drink it from a tiny cup saturated with sugar and packing more caffeine that a Red Bull!

38 posted on 10/21/2011 8:40:02 PM PDT by Seizethecarp
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To: marty60

Where in the 14th Amendment does it reference “Natural Born Citizen”? The 14th Amendment “only made citizens” out of former slaves. Were obama or Rubio former slaves?? They sure carry their age quite well.


39 posted on 10/21/2011 8:40:22 PM PDT by Crazy ole coot (Mrs. pelosi, what is the Constitutional sentence for treason??)
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To: NonValueAdded

Do you hear yourselves?
By your reasoning the Blacks that served in Congress in the 1800’s were there ilegally. They were born in the United States but due to the fact that their ancestors were not “natural born” they were not qualified.
By that definition no black descendent from slaves should ever hold office.

Or is there some magic line that is crossed where you finally qualify to be natural born. Since my ancestors were British Knights on one side and French Hugenots on the other side, I guess I’m not actually “natural Born”.


40 posted on 10/21/2011 8:42:22 PM PDT by marty60
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