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To: NonValueAdded

Do you hear yourselves?
By your reasoning the Blacks that served in Congress in the 1800’s were there ilegally. They were born in the United States but due to the fact that their ancestors were not “natural born” they were not qualified.
By that definition no black descendent from slaves should ever hold office.

Or is there some magic line that is crossed where you finally qualify to be natural born. Since my ancestors were British Knights on one side and French Hugenots on the other side, I guess I’m not actually “natural Born”.


40 posted on 10/21/2011 8:42:22 PM PDT by marty60
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To: marty60
Whether Obama is NBC has never been litigated in a trial on the merits including discovery of all evidence.

I am not a lawyer, but find the analysis of independent lawyer, Leo Donofrio, to be compelling. Donofrio sued to block both Obama and McCain from becoming president, so he proved that he is both non-partisan and not a racist. Donofrio took two cases up to the Supreme Court before Obama was sworn in so Milbank would know this if he had bothered to investigate notable “birther” lawsuits on the NBC issue (as opposed to the birth certificate issue).

See Donofrio’s latest analysis here:

http://naturalborncitizen.wordpress.com/2011/10/09/multiple-instances-of-historical-scholarship-conclusively-establish-the-supreme-courts-holding-in-minor-v-happersett-as-standing-precedent-on-citizenship-obama-not-eligible/

45 posted on 10/21/2011 9:02:34 PM PDT by Seizethecarp
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To: marty60
Do you hear yourselves?
By your reasoning the Blacks that served in Congress in the 1800’s were there ilegally. They were born in the United States but due to the fact that their ancestors were not “natural born” they were not qualified. By that definition no black descendent from slaves should ever hold office.

Or is there some magic line that is crossed where you finally qualify to be natural born. Since my ancestors were British Knights on one side and French Hugenots on the other side, I guess I’m not actually “natural Born”.

The Natural Born Citizen requirement for presidential eligibility is unique in the Constitution. Citizens who are not NBC are eligible to serve as Senators and Congressmen.

Without more information about your citizenship and your parents' citizenship, it would be difficult to determine whether you are a Natural Born Citizen.

However, your willful ignorance should definitely render you unsuitable for any grown-up position.

50 posted on 10/21/2011 9:36:32 PM PDT by meadsjn
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To: marty60
You shouldn't jump right into an issue you obviously know nothing about. “Natural Born Citizen” is a requirement for president only (Article II, Section 1, Clause 5) and the vice president (Article XII, or 12th amendment) not members of Congress.
51 posted on 10/21/2011 9:39:08 PM PDT by faucetman (Just the facts ma'am, just the facts)
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To: marty60
Natural Born Citizen is born in the U.S. by two citizen parents.

Don't read more into it. Citizen parents, any kind of citizen, doesn't matter where they were born. They don't have to be natural born citizens, they can be naturalized citizens.

Natural born status is decided AT BIRTH. You can't acquire it later. You parents can't fix it by becoming citizens later.

AT BIRTH.
1. Where were you born
2. Were your parents U.S. citizens at the time of your birth.

That's it!

Your birth is a moment in time. At that moment, your natural born status is set for all time. You are or you are not. If you are not, you can not be president or vice president. Otherwise, it matters not.

If you never aspire to be president or vice president, it matters not.

53 posted on 10/21/2011 9:52:46 PM PDT by faucetman (Just the facts ma'am, just the facts)
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