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re. Lisa Irwin: cadaver dogs detect smell of dead body under parents' bed
Fox News Channel (live, no link) | 10/21/11

Posted on 10/21/2011 12:27:02 PM PDT by pabianice

Breaking on Fox. Also: police report evidence discrepancies after executing search warrant.


TOPICS: Crime/Corruption; News/Current Events
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1 posted on 10/21/2011 12:27:07 PM PDT by pabianice
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Does not sound good at all........Can dogs make mistakes?.........


2 posted on 10/21/2011 12:28:27 PM PDT by Red Badger (Obama's number one economics advisor must be a Magic Eight Ball.................)
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To: pabianice

I had a feeling the mother was involved, her story was full of holes!


3 posted on 10/21/2011 12:28:39 PM PDT by blondee123 (Obama-The Wanna-be Dictator!)
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To: pabianice

More. Cadaver dogs make hits in parents’ back yard.


4 posted on 10/21/2011 12:30:50 PM PDT by pabianice (")
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probably passed out on top of the baby.. smothered her.. panicked.. just sad .. any way this one ends up. sad.


5 posted on 10/21/2011 12:31:00 PM PDT by NormsRevenge (Semper Fi ... Godspeed .. Monthly Donor Onboard .. Obama: Epic Fail or Bust!!!)
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To: pabianice

looks like another Casey Anthony


6 posted on 10/21/2011 12:33:47 PM PDT by drewh
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To: pabianice

This breaks my heart. That dear baby. Dear God this society is totally fractured and sick beyond reason!

This is going to be like the Anthony circus if that dear child is gone, only if it is I hope the prosecutor has his ducks in a row. We have had enough of these kind of horror.


7 posted on 10/21/2011 12:33:47 PM PDT by mardi59 (Time to turn off the tv so I don't break it..)
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This breaks my heart. That dear baby. Dear God this society is totally fractured and sick beyond reason!

Sadly.. I agree.

8 posted on 10/21/2011 12:35:02 PM PDT by ScottinVA (Hurrah me boys, for FREEDOM! `Tis the risin` o` the moon!)
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To: pabianice

No, please no.......


9 posted on 10/21/2011 12:37:35 PM PDT by Red Badger (Obama's number one economics advisor must be a Magic Eight Ball.................)
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To: truth_seeker

ping


10 posted on 10/21/2011 12:37:35 PM PDT by sodpoodle (Cain - touching the better angels of our nature.)
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To: ScottinVA

Agreed. America has become a sick society.


11 posted on 10/21/2011 12:37:42 PM PDT by AEMILIUS PAULUS (It is a shame that when these people give a riot)
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Court Documents: Cadaver Dogs Search Irwin Parent’s Bedroom

COMPLETE COVERAGE: SEARCH FOR BABY LISA IRWIN
Meagan Kelleher, Web Producer

2:16 p.m. CDT, October 21, 2011
KANSAS CITY—
Court documents released on Friday show that a cadaver dog indicated a “hit” in the bedroom of Lisa Irwin’s parents during a search of the home this week. The search warrant return also indicated that police investigated “freshly-turned” dirt in the backyard.

The court document said police took a comforter, baby shirt and purple shorts from the home. The search warrant application said police asked for the warrant to get an “uninterrupted” search of the home, even though the parents had given permission.

Baby Lisa was reported missing around 4 a.m. Tuesday, Oct. 4. She is described as white, with blonde hair and blue eyes, about 30 inches tall and weighing 26-30 pounds. Her family said she has two bottom teeth, a small bug bite under her left ear, and a beauty mark on her right outer thigh.

The family said she was last seen wearing purple shorts and a purple shirt with white kittens on it
http://www.fox4kc.com/news/wdaf-baby-lisa-search-warrant-court-documents-cadaver-dogs-search-irwin-parents-bedroom-20111021,0,7409365.story


12 posted on 10/21/2011 12:39:34 PM PDT by drewh
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To: Red Badger
Can dogs make mistakes?

You betcha they can. And do.

These dogs are amazing, but the mistake people make is that they are essentially an instrument. The operator (trainer/handler) is the one that determines how accurate the dog's responses will be.

The problem is that there is no real way to "calibrate" a dog's response or check it against a standard.

IMO, a "hit" by a dog should not be considered direct evidence, but rather should be used only to determine where to dig deeper or look harder, or as confirmation of other evidence.

13 posted on 10/21/2011 12:44:17 PM PDT by Sherman Logan
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I can’t agree. Painting with too broad a brush the entirety of America based upon a very limited sample is ridicules. There are vastly larger numbers of bad behavior NOT happening than happening. The media skews perceptions way too much.


14 posted on 10/21/2011 12:44:35 PM PDT by SoldierDad (Proud dad of an Army Soldier currently deployed in the Valley of Death, Afghanistan)
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To: pabianice

I hate that when a cadaver dog smells a dead body under my bed...


15 posted on 10/21/2011 12:46:04 PM PDT by trailboss800
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I wish they could have water boarded this woman. Anytime a child goes missing, and before the police spend hundreds of man hours investigating, they should have drilled this woman.


16 posted on 10/21/2011 12:47:48 PM PDT by dragonblustar (Allah Ain't So Akbar!)
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The police handlers gave the dogs the girl’s clothes to smell, it sounds like. All this MIGHT mean is that they detected her scent under the bed. Maybe she had crawled under the bed at some point, playing or retrieving something that rolled under there.

As you suggest, dogs can’t talk, so it depends how you interpret their responses.


17 posted on 10/21/2011 12:48:48 PM PDT by Cicero (Marcus Tullius.)
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To: mardi59; ScottinVA

The evidence that we do not live in a sick society is that we still abhor such things, not that individuals are aberrant and evil.

Again and again, in Biblical times, are admonitions against parents offering up their children as burnt sacrifices to such pagan gods as Moloch.

In most times and places in human history, the death rate of infants was so high due to “natural causes” that infanticide was rarely presumed, parents given whatever sympathy others felt a need to offer.

Today, however, we reject death, and ask, even demand answers for the death of children. Nor do we accept even natural death as natural, but demand culpability and as a minimum, an effort to prevent such death in the future. And punishment for murder.

This is not a sick society, but a caring one. And while some still kill their children, and the children of others, we do not ignore it, but abhor it.


18 posted on 10/21/2011 12:49:02 PM PDT by yefragetuwrabrumuy
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Dear God this society is totally fractured and sick beyond reason!

No it's not. This kind of thing [if it indeed was a murder] has been going on for as long as people have existed, and I've seen no evidence that it's increased. In fact, all violent crime has plunged in recent years.

And look at the response. It's all over the news. If it turns out that this was a murder, people across the country will be outraged and demand justice.

Enough with the hand-wringing.

19 posted on 10/21/2011 12:49:14 PM PDT by Ken H (They are running out of other people's money. )
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To: truth_seeker; truthkeeper

Sorry for the ping TS - it was supposed to go to TK;(


20 posted on 10/21/2011 12:49:54 PM PDT by sodpoodle (Cain - touching the better angels of our nature.)
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