Maybe Sarah Palin Was Right About Death Panels

Philadelphia Magazine ^ | October 20, 2011 | Larry Mendte

[frposty]

“So we’ll never know what she’d be like in national office”

Holy cow don’t give up on that possibility, and don’t give up on the possibility that she can do this country enormous good from whatever perch she chooses to occupy.

[presently no screen name]

The commie rats knew immediately when Sarah came on the scene - here is one not afraid to speak out boldly and one to be reckoned with. Did any one with a platform stand in her defense against the media - nope. But Americans knew here is someone finally saying what we believed all along and gravitated towards her and the attacks were fired up 24/7 against her. The weak and clueless submitted to the evil media and bought the lie.

Nothing new under the sun. Darkness hates the light. Evil hates truth.

[kaila]

I do not consider Mrs Wagners nursing home placement a medical issue- it is a social issue.She could be taken care of at home, it appears to me her family does not want to take care of her.
Why does healthcare have to take into account of social issues like home placement?
The government should have social issues into a separate fund.Then we can differentiate between the true cost of healthcare, and the true cost of social issues.
I have long term care insurance- when I can no longer ambulate or take care of my ADLs. I do not consider that ‘healthcare”.

[ichabod1]

An overwhelming percent of medical care is delivered in the last weeks of life. It’s understandable that some would want to get the number down. Unfortunately, because of the government, people don’t trust the doctors when they say someone is terminal so no one trusts them not to kill a patient to free up a bed.

[itsahoot]

Yes it is always best when someone else decides when your quality of life is to good enough to bear the expense. </useless food gobblers

[Sea Parrot]

Such is all to true. wife and I find ourselves fighting Medicare more and more.

Couple tips to the unaware. When your doctor refers you to a specialist, for imagining, lab work etc. Make damn sure they are a medical necessity by Medicare's standards. If not and turned down, Medicare will not pay a cent, neither will secondary ins, and you will be stuck with the full costs.

http://www.google.com/#hl=en&sugexp=kjrmc&cp=26&gs_id=2c&xhr=t&q=medicare%2Bmedical+necessity&pf=p&sclient=psy-ab&source=hp&pbx=1&oq=medicare%2Bmedical+necessity&aq=f&aqi=&aql=&gs_sm=&gs_upl=&bav=on.2,or.r_gc.r_pw.,cf.osb&fp=d566e0fbd09c8604&biw=960&bih=459

Also, be absolutely sure whatever health provider you go to is in the Medicare Assignment Participation program. If they are not, you can again get stuck with some horrific medical bills.

If not careful, the term Medicare assignment can come to have great negative meaning in many peoples’ lives.

http://www.google.com/#hl=en&sugexp=kjrmc&cp=19&gs_id=3a&xhr=t&q=medicare%2Bassignment&pf=p&sclient=psy-ab&source=hp&pbx=1&oq=medicare%2Bassignment&aq=f&aqi=&aql=&gs_sm=&gs_upl=&bav=on.2,or.r_gc.r_pw.,cf.osb&fp=d566e0fbd09c8604&biw=960&bih=459

[itsahoot]

The last time I was in the hospital overnight, had some stents put in, the nurse got real hostile when I would not sign a DNR, even though my wife had been assigned that decision.

I took my heart monitor off about midnight, no one came to check on me until the Doctor came by to release me that morning.

[The Great RJ]

Remember how Republicans were pilloried for even suggesting Medicare reforms and were branded as wanting to gut Medicare? Obamacare actually cut $800 billion out of Medicare and nothing gets said, but now as Rev. Wright preached ...the chickens have come home to roost.

[JimRed]

She is no longer of use to the regime. No resources to be wasted on her.

[goodnesswins]

Likely true...however, in the past those who had worked hard and could afford it could buy their care here in the US...in the future, they’ll just have to go off shore...or underground.

[G Larry]

When financial incentives are placed ahead of medical outcome, “death panels” are the natural result and no amount of political ridicule will change that reality.

Obamacare only heightened the focus on financial incentives, ensuring bureaucrats have more control than the Dr. in charge of the patient.

[JimRed]

She is no longer of use to the regime.

Clarification: The 91 year old woman, not Sarah!

[2ndDivisionVet]

Maybe you can or someone else here answer a question for me: I am 51 and use the Veterans Affairs medical system. When I turn 65, do I have to start using Medicare, or can I keep using VA?

[presently no screen name]

So we'll never know what she'd be like in national office.

Sure we do and that's why the liberals and rino's didn't want - she'd upset the establishment and bring back what is known as America. They would lose power as it would be given back to 'WeThePople' as the law of the land would be followed.

What we won't do is experience it - the commie rats and rinos and clueless parrot media pawn Americans made sure of that. And we see it still here on FR - the venom spewed out against Sarah - evil knows no bounds. One thing that pleases me about Sarah not running - if she did - these parasites would benefit from her leading our country - now they can rot in their own propaganda vomit they so willingly ate. What they sow they reap, MORE than they sow, LATER than they sow. Not one of the candidates would do the task that Sarah would do - they are politicians and not a servant like Gov. Palin.

And evil says that is worship because it hates anything that is good like Patriotism - one nation under God. Evil wants to be worshiped and freepers here have bowed down to it every time they opened their mouth to condemn Sarah in any fashion. Sarah will always be Sarah - they can never take that from her. As long as she tries to help our country which is the fire in her belly and no one can put that fire out, evil will come against her. Watch any thread on Gov. Palin - the maggots come out to spew the garbage that is within them and many will use any thread to condemn - because they are so filled with hatred, it consumes them.

[NC28203]

From the article: According to the Centers for Medicare and Medicaid Services, “observation” status claims climbed 26.7 percent from 2006 to 2009—from 828,353 to 1.131 million.

From the data cited, it would appear that it was Bush 43 that instituted and promoted these death panels.

[kaila]

You are correct, this was started under Bush.

[Hoodat]

I came to this conclusion back during the campaign before Obama was even elected. During the healthcare portions of his campaign speeches, Obama would state that 80% of America's health care costs were for people above retirement age. In the next sentence, he would say that we need to reduce health care costs.

If 80% of your costs go towards covering retirees, and if you reduce the amount of money spent on health care, then retirees are going to take the brunt of those cuts.

The part that drives me crazy is hearing the liberal argument that turning our entire health care system over to a monopoly is somehow better than a fully competitive market. When I ask them to show me any place in history where a monopoly provided better service at lower cost than a fully competitive market, they can't do it. Yet they are still convinced that it will work with health care.

In a fully competitive market, there will be some entrepreneur somewhere who will find a way to make money off of MRIs and will purchase a machine to capture that business. And another, then another, then another entrepreneur will join him, and they will each find themselves minimizing their costs in order to secure enough business from their competitors to remain in business.

With the government monopoly, there is never an incentive to purchase an MRI machine. MRI centers become cost centers instead of profit centers. So in order to cut costs, the government shuts down the MRI centers. And this is repeated throughout the system, except of course for the government bureaucrats who will reserve for themselves a separate system to cover their own needs. Think of the State Party Stores in the USSR where Communist Party officials could purchase the finest consumer goods while the rest of the proles were stuck in line hoping that there would be something left that might fit.

[itsahoot]

Soylent Green I say.

I think I saw you daughter at the OWS on TV. She wants to move to primitivism. When asked about people who wouldn’t be able to survive in a hunter gatherer system, she replied they would learn, or die, after all everyone dies. </Useless Food Gobblers>

[rockinqsranch]

“In my judgment, the government should get completely out of health care.”

Yes, absolutely correct.

What government can do is tort reform, otherwise stay the “H” out of ________________ name of private enterprise you wish to mention, in this case Medical Industry.

[TheOldLady]

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