Posted on 10/20/2011 7:56:54 AM PDT by normy
This is a bruising left hook to the Mitt Romney Campaign. Now we know why the seemingly unimportant exchange over the illegal immigrant hiring.
The issues are, how long did Perry continue to support the presidential candidates of the national Democrat party and its policies. When someone is still supporting a national Dim for president in 1988, there's quite a bit of political history that did not dissuade that individual away from the Dims prior to 1988.
And don't bother with claiming Perry voted for Reagan or GHWB. Any politician can claim anything that can't be proved one way or the other.
And don't bother with the history lessons about the transition of southern politicians away from the Dim party. I lived in Alabama through those years.
No, didn’t miss it.
Gov Rick Perry will be the strongest candidate for developing our energy resources and that is where we need to go! Go Rick!
see post #86 :)
“Willard” hired a landscaping firm who employed a couple of illegal grass cutters. Do you know the nationality of every person who works on your property or in your house? I try, but it is not easy.
Perry gave in state tuition to thousands of illegal children. Not exactly equal in the outrage quotient. Rick is swirling and he knows it. His debate attack reeked of desperation.
I’m sorry, I don’t get the altar connection between Palin and Cain. Exactly how is their situation similar? Be specific if you can.
Frankly, I would expect Perry to desert me if he were elected president given his past as well as his past and present positions. I really don’t see how you and other Perrywinkles are able to just pretend none of that happened or exists.
None of the other truly conservative candidates—Cain, Bachmann and Santorum—are burdened with that baggage. As far as Cain goes, he isn’t burdened either with having held political office in the past. He’s fresh face with fresh ideas. Bachmann and Santorum —despite their holding or having held office—are obviously not part of the political elite either.
Oh, and please spare me the lack of experience argument. It is exactly the so-called politically experienced (including Newt, Romney, Perry, Paul) who have participated (by what they did or did not do) in the debasement of our country.
The fallacy in all these attempts to explain why Perry stuck with the national Dims until 1988 is that the issues that caused Reagan to changed parties around 1960, and whatever caused Perry to change around 1990, were vastly different.
The national Dims had clearly been a leftist, anti-American and anti-military party since the late 1960s. Have you ever heard of George McGovern? I left the Dims in 1968 while in college, before I could even vote. I was actually never with them. Reagan changed parties because of the increasingly socialist, big government drift of the Dims in the late 1950s.
Anyone still supporting any national Dim for president in 1988 was not a conservative. Perry changed parties because he realized he'd stayed too long already and would not be viable for statewide offices much longer in Texas.
Well now, wait...
Mr. Cain supported Democrats, too:
“All but one of Cain’s contributions to Democrats went to candidates in Nebraska, where Godfather’s Pizza, the company Cain led from 1986 to 1996, had been headquartered for more than 35 years: In 1993, Cain gave $500 to former Nebraska Gov. Bob Kerrey and $250 to New York Rep. Jose Serrano. In 1994, Cain wrote a check for $500 to former Nebraska Rep. Peter Hoagland. Two years later, he gave $500 to Nebraska Sen. Ben Nelson and in 1998, he donated another $500 to Omaha newscaster Michael Scott’s campaign for Congress.”
Now, I’m not saying Mr. Cain’s a Democrat, Liberal or anything close to that.
But just because a candidate supported Democrats at some point, doesn’t necessarily make them a Liberal...or a Democrat.
However, fair is fair.
Bringing up Perry’s way-past associations means everyone else’s is fair play.
Right?
No cigar. Cain was a businessman located in Omaha as I understand it. He was making contributions to successful Nebraska politicians. All businesses of any size do that.
And, did you provide a complete list of his contributions, or just the ones to Dims?
I was a Perry supporter at one point, but his many gaffes have really turned me off. You never know what he is going to say next.
As far as being a conservative, Cain is more articulate and conservative than Perry. There is no reason to favor Perry over Cain . . and money isn’t helping him in the polls.
I honestly think nominating Perry would give Florida’s electoral votes to Obama, what with his harsh statements about Social Security.
My POINT, even though it may be a little difficult for some to grasp, is that supporting a Democrat doesn’t make one less conservative or more liberal. There may be practical, realistic reasons that it happened. One must take everything into account.
You’re willing to do that with Mr. Cain. I’d suggest intellectual honesty calls for you to do that with Perry, too.
“I was a Perry supporter at one point, but his many gaffes have really turned me off. You never know what he is going to say next.”
Have you missed all of Cain’s gaffs? Good luck with your plan.
You’ve clearly made up your mind already based on very limited information and very poor reasoning. That you were “actually never with them” simply means that your choice of political party was less informed by experience and mature reflection than was Perry’s and therefore is not as commendable as was Perry’s switch. As to the matter of the changing nature of Texas politics - there are plenty of democrats who are, or who moved, far toward the conservative end of the spectrum, so there is no basis for concluding that Perry switched simply because the Texas political spectrum was shifting.
For all intents and purposes you appear to have simply decided that you dislike Perry, most likely for rather trivial issues like the idiotic tempest-in-a-teapot over the in-state tuition thing and the Gardasil thing. So be it, you are as entitled to make bad decisions as are the democrats.
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