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1 posted on 10/20/2011 2:26:32 AM PDT by dennisw
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The sales tax component of 999 isn’t a VAT. The end.


2 posted on 10/20/2011 2:28:58 AM PDT by Utmost Certainty
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Above chart shows VAT TAXES ALWAYS BEING JACKED UP same as your state and county sales taxes have been---

VAT is not exactly a national sales tax but close enough for me. And definitely close enough for Federale Gov't drones who feed on your taxes at the public trough. In Europe they always went up to fund ever growing socialist schemes. Our Democrats have in mind reparations, income redistribution and European style socialist schemes like national health care

3 posted on 10/20/2011 2:33:51 AM PDT by dennisw (What good is a used up world and how could it be worth having - - Sting)
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One simple solution to these problems would be to require a 60% majority of the voting populace to agree to any tax hikes, and that any approved tax hikes would automatically expire after 4 years and have to be voted on and approved by 60% (again) to be reinstated.


4 posted on 10/20/2011 2:36:55 AM PDT by Spktyr (Overwhelmingly superior firepower and the willingness to use it is the only proven peace solution.)
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To: dennisw

Cain’s plan is not a VAT.


6 posted on 10/20/2011 2:37:27 AM PDT by sneakers (EAT YOUR PEAS!)
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He intends to pass the Balanced Budget Amendment.
He says this is the first step on the path to the Fair Tax, which would eliminate income tax altogether.
And he says there is no tax in existence which they cannot raise. We must be diligent to elect people who will not raise it.
His is the only plan which extends the tax base to include the 50% who pay no federal income tax now, not to mention those working under the radar who receive benefits but pay nothing (illegals).
This also eliminates the payroll tax which is 6%.
It's a really good plan, far better than Newt's or Romney's. They want to tweak the old system. He wants to "abolish and replace."
Go to cspan2.org and watch his speech to the Values Voters Summit. It's brilliant.
7 posted on 10/20/2011 2:39:14 AM PDT by athelass (Proud Mom of a Sailor & 2 Marines! My son has safely returned from deployment, Thank you Jesus!)
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The solution is to keep the tax in the open, like Canada did.

We’ve had our GST since 1992 and it hasn’t gone up.
No government dares to raise it.


9 posted on 10/20/2011 2:45:15 AM PDT by Jonty30
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WTH?? Can someone PLEASE tell me WHY a national sales tax, VAT or any tax at all cannot ALSO be raises at any time?

Why is this suddenly an issue? Are people just stupid or gullible and believe whatever an opponent of change tells them?

Geez, no wonder this country is so f’d up.


11 posted on 10/20/2011 2:49:06 AM PDT by 101voodoo
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Any propagandist demonizing the proposed national one-time retail sales tax, by referring to it as a VAT, is simply a lying pile of crap, including the WSJ.


16 posted on 10/20/2011 2:55:56 AM PDT by ROCKLOBSTER ( Celebrate Republicans Freed the Slaves Month.)
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Could we assume that anyone who posts something like that is trying to confuse the issue and inject untruths into the dialogue since not one of the candidates is recommending anything like a VAT? In fact, they are trying to get rid of a form of VAT that we currently have? Discount anything that person puts out there comes to mind.


63 posted on 10/20/2011 8:03:50 AM PDT by CynicalBear
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This is why the approach to making a change of this nature should be done through the constitutional amendment process. Set the rate in the amendment. Make it really difficult to change. If they'd done that with the original income tax we'd not be in the mess we're in.
68 posted on 10/20/2011 10:12:23 AM PDT by zeugma (Those of us who work for a living are outnumbered by those who vote for a living.)
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