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Gilad Shalit release: live
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Posted on 10/18/2011 4:03:21 AM PDT by nuconvert

Gilad Shalit, the Israel soldier held captive for five years by Hamas, has been freed today in Gaza in return for the release of hundreds of Palestinian prisoners.

(Excerpt) Read more at telegraph.co.uk ...


TOPICS: Breaking News; Foreign Affairs; Israel; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: giladschalit; giladshalit; hamas; israel; palestinians; shalit
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To: montag813

It is time to stop the aid to Israel and Egypt. They are both insane. The first have become surrender monkeys and the other are blood thirsty murderers. In fact, stop all Foreign Aid. Now.


41 posted on 10/18/2011 9:04:44 AM PDT by TomasUSMC ( FIGHT LIKE WW2, FINISH LIKE WW2. FIGHT LIKE NAM, FINISH LIKE NAM)
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To: montag813

I’m with you — this is a foolish exchange prompted by short-term political pressures and sentiment.

Sure anyone would “want” Shalit released, but to trade 1,000+ Pali terrorists for him is simply insane.

Some number of those scumbags will go on to kill many more innocent Israelis.

Shalit’s life and freedom are won at the cost of innumerable future deaths and maimings.

The human cost will not be small and it will mount for years to come. One life was saved, yes, but many many more have been sacrificed.

Also, the terrorists of Hamas and the PA have been emboldened. This rewards terrorism. I cannot believe Bibi of all people would do this.


42 posted on 10/18/2011 9:16:40 AM PDT by Enchante (Killing Al-Awlaki is the only kind of Obamacare I can support!!)
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To: nuconvert
12:01 Speaking to a large crowd in Ramallah, Mahmoud Abbas, Palestinian president said:

“Dear brother and sisters, your families in Palestinian territories and around the world are looking at you now and are happy that you are being released.

Your efforts have not been in vain. You have sacrificed, fought and paid the price. You will see the results of your struggle by the inception of a free and independent Palestinian state whose capital is Jerusalem”.

......Reinterpreted:

We as thugs have the right to kidnap, murder, and generally throw a fit until we get our way, even though in our hearts we know the Koran states that Israel belongs to the Jews. We also affirm that one Israeli is worth 1,027 of us.

43 posted on 10/18/2011 10:23:09 AM PDT by Yulee (Village of Albion)
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To: Redleg Duke
Shhhhhhhh...you're not supposed to mention this publicly.
44 posted on 10/18/2011 10:26:13 AM PDT by Yulee (Village of Albion)
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To: nuconvert

Here’s some comments about his health and condition....keep in mind he had not been seen by Israel Dr.s when he did the Egytian interview.....

Schalit — the first Israeli soldier returned home alive in 26 years — had not been seen in public since his capture....

Among those around Schalit in those first moments was Ahmed Jabari, the shadowy head of Hamas’ militant wing, one of Israel’s most wanted militants.

Shalit actually walked free on Tuesday,..... The gaunt, sallow and uncomfortable looking Schalit appeared to struggle to speak at times, during an Egytian news interview.....(Israeli security officials told Israeli YNet News that the interview was a violation of the deal for Schalit’s release.)

His breathing was noticeably labored as he awkwardly answered questions.......”he seemed extremely tired, thin and pale, voice very faint, very difficult to concentrate. I had to repeat the questions several times,”.... Amin, his Egyptian interviewer stated to The Associated Press.

So .... frail he passed out on the helicopter ride home,......he showed signs of malnutrition and lack of exposure to the sun.....the last few years in “isolation”.......”After a medical examination, Israeli officials said Schalit showed signs of malnutrition......

The circumstances of his release, along with the awkward TV interview, raised questions about the conditions the 25-year-old had endured. Since Shalit’s capture Hamas has not allowed Shalit to receive visits by the International Committee of the Red Cross

“Hello Gilad, it’s so good to have you home,” Netanyahu told the freed soldier.

“Sorry I am so weak,” Shalit told Netanyahu.

Meanwhile the Palestinians:

In Gaza City, tens of thousands crammed into an open lot where a huge stage was set up, decorated with a mural depicting Schalit’s capture in a June 2006 raid on an army base near the Gaza border.

The crowd exhorted militants to seize more soldiers for future swaps.

To Hamas, the militant Palestinian group which controls Gaza, the prisoner swap deal is being portrayed as a great victory....prisoners and demonstrators made glaring demands for more soldier kidnappings to bring home the thousands of Palestinians who remain in Israeli prisons.

Hamas turned Tuesday’s celebration in Gaza into a show of strength for the Islamic militant movement.


45 posted on 10/18/2011 12:47:45 PM PDT by caww
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To: nuconvert

He is so thin and frail looking, no expression on his face.
Heaven knows what they did to him all this time.


46 posted on 10/18/2011 2:31:01 PM PDT by La Enchiladita
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To: caww

Yeah, they certainly didn’t improve his conditions while they were anticipating making this deal.
In the meantime, the Palestinian prisoners looked healthy


47 posted on 10/18/2011 2:31:06 PM PDT by nuconvert ( Khomeini promised change too // Hail, Chairman O)
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To: originalbuckeye

Let’s hope this Munich 1938 by the Israelis doesn’t wind up turning into a Munich 1972 for them.


48 posted on 10/18/2011 2:33:30 PM PDT by dfwgator
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To: montag813

I am not an Israeli.
I don’t live there.
I have not been victimized daily by fear and struggled for decades after many holocausts to keep my country alive.
I and my countrymen are not militarily defending this country daily with boots on the ground.

I therefore have nothing to say about what Israeli’s do to keep up their strength and courage in the face of evil....except to give them my undivided support.

The release has meaning—whether they agree or not with the action—only for Israelis. I would not as an observer, or an “expert” to deign to criticize the release.


49 posted on 10/18/2011 2:45:13 PM PDT by Recovering Ex-hippie (Rick Perry 2012)
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To: nuconvert

During his intitial interview he was dis-associating a lot...has trouble with eye contact...usually indicates he’s likely compartmentalized much that’s happened to him.

Very sad he passed out in the plane..but understandable..I doubt he’s in good shape at all...mentally he’s certainly got a rode ahead to straighten that out.

If you read what isolation does to the mind then his behavior pretty much shows that....


50 posted on 10/18/2011 3:41:13 PM PDT by caww
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To: La Enchiladita

His steady starring off tells me he’s dissociating...and likely now has this as an established coping mechanism from things being said and done to him.

This behavior is how we are designed when trauma etc. completely overwhelm the mind...the person simply leaves the momenin his mind...to endure whatever.

Considering he was nineteen when captured...and his first years were full of various tortures etc. He’s got a whole lot of mental work ahead to be himself again.

Soldiers who have been brutalized and in terrorists captivity are prone for suicide.


51 posted on 10/18/2011 3:48:06 PM PDT by caww
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To: redgolum

Palestinians already announced they would make kidnapping Israeli soldiers a priority.


52 posted on 10/19/2011 3:52:24 AM PDT by R. Scott (Humanity i love you because when you're hard up you pawn your Intelligence to buy a drink)
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To: R. Scott
Which is why this was such bad strategy. I am happy for the soldier that got released, but many more will have to suffer for it.
53 posted on 10/19/2011 5:50:42 AM PDT by redgolum ("God is dead" -- Nietzsche. "Nietzsche is dead" -- God.)
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