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To: Red6
If we court marshaled everyone that commits adultery

Who are you quoting? Why do you need to go the "holier than thou" route?

Not everyone commits adultery. People who don't have minimize their risks of compounding problems like this. You disagree with that?

Furthermore, this happens to non-military people all the time. They also lose their careers, families, savings. This is no different.

How's the best way to resolve this? Don't take the first step.

63 posted on 10/17/2011 8:17:17 AM PDT by sam_paine (X .................................)
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To: sam_paine; Red6
You are both overlooking a couple of key facts:

(1)In the very left-wing Euro-justice systems, the fact that the plaintiff was a mental patient makes it far worse for the defendant. She is thereby in the Euro-systems, incapable of informed consent. It becomes a form of statutory rape.

(2) Even in the USA, a plaintiff's former sexual history is usually not admissible.

Also, claims of rape by German women against American service personnel are far from rare, and of course most are dismissed out of hand. But if in a certain area, the complaints begin to add up, the Germans will seek to make an example out of an American serviceman. For the prosecutor, this mental patient was a godsend! Prognosis: Kelly will be re-sentenced to time served after a while, and released, and ruined for life.

65 posted on 10/17/2011 8:58:23 AM PDT by Kenny Bunk (Romney: Now! New! The Obama Puppet Available in White!)
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To: sam_paine
Number of people that pass a polygraph trying to state that they never lied, did drugs, drove drunk, cheated, were late on paying someone, never engaged in major traffic violation albeit never caught etc? Zero.

We ALL compound our lives with “problems.” That's part of being human.

*** When a court uses the side bar, the frivolous crap that really has no meaning (1) and that is a general bucket that virtually everyone would fall into anyway (2) in order to crush someone, they have some sort of agenda other than justice.

(1) In the civilian world we no longer really take people to court for adultery or even sodomy - the exceptions don't make a rule. In general, the concept of adultery is not something anyone pursues, not even in some of the more conservative states like Texas. No fault divorce is the way it goes, literally 99% of the time.

(2) As stated before and if you wish I can back up with numerous credible sources, if you really were to go after all that commit adultery and sodomy, you would end up having to lock up 97% of everyone out there. Those laws were based on lies and standards of behavior no one was abiding to, even those writing them, even back then!

What he did was dumb and wrong, but if they can't get him on rape (the real crime), the other crap should of been thrown out. If they can get him on rape (the real crime) then I would be all for nailing him to the wall.


Young people do stupid $hit.

The DoD is full of young people.

You have a concentration of stupidity at times when it comes to personal behavior of folks within the DoD for that reason.

Today the DoD is a kinder more gentler, a gayer more diverse and touchy feeling type of place than ever before in history. The difference is that we live in a digital world where records are kept and nothing is forgotten. A place where the DoD has become a social laboratory for social experimentation and political symbolic gestures. We are in a time where something happens West of Baghdad and within hours pictures or video of it are on Youtube. We live in a time where the government has given itself the power and responsibility to act as the mediator in family matters, on private property, where there is no semblance of privacy from the government (which it was originally actually intended for - today this concept is only applied between the people, i.e. I can not tell my wife that I was sterilized and she'll never know, she can hide the fact that she had an abortion and I would never know, no one will ever know I have HIV; but the government can put camera's on every road and tell you to walk through an X-ray machine at an airport...) or with issues that historically were off limits for Constitutional reasons, i.e. second amendment.

Do you think there was less drinking, smoking, less fighting, drunk driving, less XYZ many years past?

68 posted on 10/17/2011 9:34:59 AM PDT by Red6
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