Posted on 10/16/2011 9:18:08 AM PDT by kristinn
At two campaign rallies in Tennessee on Saturday night, the Republican presidential candidate Herman Cain said that part of his immigration policy would be to build an electrified fence on the countrys border with Mexico that could kill people trying to enter the country illegally.
But by Sunday morning, in a dramatic change of tone, Mr. Cain, a former restaurant executive, said he was only kidding.
Thats a joke, Mr. Cain told the journalist David Gregory during an appearance on NBCs Meet the Press, where he was asked about the electrified fence. Thats not a serious plan. Ive also said America needs to get a sense of humor.
Mr. Cains attempt to pass off incendiary comments as nothing but a joke may take more effort, however. In making the initial remarks about an electrified fence killing illegal immigrants, Mr. Cain was detailed and repetitive. He did not introduce his thoughts as anything but serious commentary, beginning with the words, We have a crisis of illegal immigration.
And the crowds responded with cheers, not laughs.
(Excerpt) Read more at thecaucus.blogs.nytimes.com ...
Because they’re adults that are staying out of the limelight and busy living their lives, raising Cain’s grandchildren? I doubt they’re clamoring to be on ‘Dancing with the Stars’ or on reality television.
I heard the Cainiac was an electrifying speaker, but . . . .
Herman all you have to say is that when you are elected you will declare a state of emergency and build a fence across our border. Tell me what happens to an Arab when they scale the fence between Israel and Gaza?
The third thing we need to do, enforce the laws that are there, and the way we do it, empower the states. I believe that the people closest to the problem are the best ones to be able to solve that problem. Empower the states to do what the federal government hasnt done, cant do, and wont do. This is how we solve the entire problem.
Source: 2011 GOP debate in Simi Valley CA at the Reagan Library , Sep 7, 2011
OMG he suggests the states do it and not expect daddy government to do it. So many clamor for less government, then turn around and want the government to fix it. People that run for Governor in states like California and Texas know they have a border problem. Have a plan before you think of running. If you are going to give illegals benefits like healthcare and education and not enforce the laws of deportation, then the onus is on those states to deal with it.
I guess because I'm an eternal optimist. I always seem to expect people to be better than that - but I guess it's just human nature. You'd think I'd learn better, but at my age, that doesn't look likely.
That thread last night reminded me of a pack of dogs. Sad. Sad. Sad.
I guess its easier just to make grandiose statements about a border youve never seen and obviously know little about.
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Isn’t that what politics is all about these days. most of them would have a hard time finding it on a map. ;-)
Oh, I’m on board with that sentiment.
I hereby pledge to work and support any candidate against Obama even if it’s Cain.
I think my second choice right now would be Newt. He would be a fun candidate and a lot of people here seem fixated on debating skills which he has in spades.
I just worry that the vitriol going on now, mainly against Perry, a good man, a proven leader and conservative is going to divide and conquer.
POST OF THE DAY!
>> “It is politically stupid to alienate the fastest growing demographic.” <<
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That is why we have to turn them into the “Incredible Shrinking Demographic.”
....but neither have a chance, even though Newt's the smartest guy on stage. Very unfortunate that his baggage will weight him way down
The only viable candidate is Mr. Cain, imo.
You did not buck up your story at all. Cain did NOT BRING THE ROCK UP - he was asked about it. I would have preferred that he had made “no comment.” That would have been better.
Having said that, it is ridiculous to say he “got all upset about it.”
The problem is this: you have a kool aid agenda for a candidate who is sinking. I, on the other hand, like your candidate but like another one too.
I see both sides. You can’t get the kool aid out of your eyes.
Of those five points I think the fence/border security is the least important as far as the illegal alien problem. The other four would actually have the biggest effect on those coming here for jobs. But they all need to be done.
Unfortunately crossing the border just to work a legitimate job is not the biggest reason we have people crossing our borders anymore. Narco-terrorist drug cartels and Muslim terrorists are now the biggest concern and the only thing that will address that is strong border security.
Heh....
Yes you are RIGHT!
“IT will kill you”
I guess it depends on what the meaning of the word IT is?
>> “This guy is gonna embarrass our side time and again.” <<
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Not nearly so much as you’re going to embarrass us if you’re not zotted soon!
Because he has lots of things he gets asked about. The last debate was on the economy. Illegal migration didn’t come up.
You get a certain amount of time to to respond at debates. I think he is trying to handle one issue at a time. He’s been hammering 999, so now maybe he is going to bring out his illegal immigration policy.
I’m not sure if the next debate on Tuesday is about just one topic or if there will be various topics.
Well, you don’t have to insult me. :) Okay, I guess you do.
Business experience is good. I’d like a candidate who has both.
My point is that no one has any real knowledge of how Cain would vote, how he would handle legislative matters, nothing.
Perry is for disbanding the EPA which would be the single biggest boon to business I can think of.
He’s for going after our natural resources which would jump start the economy in many ways and stop our dependence on foreign oil, the money from which is often used to make weapons against us.
Cain is attractive, says the right things (until he has to take them back) but my point is that all we know about the man is what he says.
>> Perry is for disbanding the EPA which would be the single biggest boon to business I can think of.
Amen to that.
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