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Raisin' [a Few Issues for the Purpose of Honestly Vetting Herman] Cain!
The American Thinker ^ | October 16, 2011 | Joseph Ashby

Posted on 10/16/2011 2:32:45 AM PDT by Cincinatus' Wife

"I'm the only problem-solver in the group," Republican presidential candidate Herman Cain told Mike Huckabee in an August Fox News appearance. Well, many candidates bill themselves as problem-solvers. In fact, if we asked any candidate running for any office in the entire country, practically every one would likely define him- or herself as able to solve problems. Yet we know that politicians, as a rule, create and worsen problems rather than fix them.

.....Overconfidence turns the hopeful campaign pronouncements of otherwise successful people into dismal policy. In the end, Americans usually end up with more laws, less freedom, and no money.

The question is what type of problem-solver Cain will be as president......

Examining Herman Cain's record leaves serious questions about which type of problem-solver he is. In a column published October 20, 2008, Cain blamed conservatives' "economic illiteracy" for their opposition to the freshly passed Trouble Assets Relief Program.

"Wake up people!" admonished Cain with typical candor. "Owning a part of the major banks in America is not a bad thing. We could make a profit while solving a problem." Cain goes on to defend Treasury's decision to post-legislatively change TARP to buy preferred stock in banks rather than toxic mortgages. "You got a problem with that?" asks Cain. Apparently he didn't.

Cain reassures "free market purists" that the Treasury's stock purchase is "not nationalization because that would require government to own at least 51% of the entity for an indefinite period of time." (This is a relief, because some of us thought that government would use this foot in the door to force mergers, control salaries, and set lending rules. Oh, wait...)...

(Excerpt) Read more at americanthinker.com ...


TOPICS: Business/Economy; Editorial; Government; Politics/Elections
KEYWORDS: economy; freemarket; gopprimary; nationalbooktour; vetting
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To: normy

>> Now tell me Cain is not trying to pull the right into Romney’s camp when he picks him as his VP.

Yeah, Cain’s unabashed support of Romney is (WARNING! METAPHOR COLLISION AHEAD!) the 800 pound gorilla in the living room.

The fact is, Cain with his gimmickry is *not* the anti-Romney — he’s pulling in the same harness. Federal sales tax, indeed. Perry, with his “make government inconsequential in our lives” philosophy, IS the anti-Romney.


181 posted on 10/16/2011 6:44:15 AM PDT by Nervous Tick (Trust in God, but row away from the rocks!)
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To: mylife; HiTech RedNeck
Let's look at the effect of the Bush tax cuts, which were nowhere near what is being proposed under 999 (moreover, the Bush tax cuts were not permanent, which tends to dampen their impact as well.):

From a 2007 Heritage analysis:

Economic growth rates have more than doubled since the 2003 tax cuts;

Tax revenues are above the historical average, even after the tax cuts;

Myth #8: Tax cuts help the economy by "putting money in people's pockets." Fact: Pro-growth tax cuts support incentives for productive behavior. . . . If policymakers intend cigarette taxes to discourage smoking, they should also expect high investment taxes to discourage investment and income taxes to discourage work.

Regardless of the tax rate, tax revenues have almost always come in at approximately 18 percent of GDP. Since revenues move with GDP, the common-sense way to increase tax revenues is to expand the GDP. This means that pro-growth policies such as low marginal tax rates (especially on work, savings, and investment).

Government spending does not "pump new money into the economy" because government must first tax or borrow that money out of the economy. Claims that tax cuts benefit the economy by "putting money in people's pockets" represent the flip side of the pump-priming fallacy. Instead, the right tax cuts help the economy by reducing government's influence on economic decisions and allowing people to respond more to market mechanisms, thereby encouraging more productive behavior.

Yet some propose demand-side tax cuts to "put money in people's pockets" and "get people to spend money." The 2001 tax rebates serve as an example: Washington borrowed billions from investors and then mailed that money to families in the form of $600 checks. Predictably, this simple transfer of existing wealth caused a temporary increase in consumer spending and a corresponding decrease in investment but led to no new economic growth. No new wealth was created because the tax rebate was unrelated to productive behavior. No one had to work, save, or invest more to receive a rebate. Simply redistributing existing wealth does not create new wealth.

In contrast, marginal tax rates were reduced throughout the 1920s, 1960s, and 1980s. In all three decades, investment increased, and higher economic growth followed. Real GDP increased by 59 percent from 1921 to 1929, by 42 percent from 1961 to 1968, and by 31 percent from 1982 to 1989.[15] More recently, the 2003 tax cuts helped to bring about strong economic growth for the past three years.

182 posted on 10/16/2011 6:45:03 AM PDT by fightinJAG (NO REPRESENTATION WITHOUT TAXATION! Everyone should pay taxes, everyone should pay the same rate.)
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To: palmer
Why not just cut the corporate tax rate to 9 percent? I think Palin said zero but I bet you will see Perry come in around the 10% mark.

Like Trump said when criticizing Paul Ryan's plan, "you don't throw the whole thing out there so the press and the Dems can carve it up, you give it to them piecemeal and while their still chewing on it, hit them with the next phase" (or something like that).

That is what Perry is doing. His first phase is a jump start to the economy. The next phase coming in 10 days will address taxes and entitlements.

I know CW posted a link to the full transcript of Perry's speech a couple days ago.

183 posted on 10/16/2011 6:45:34 AM PDT by normy (Don't take it personally, just take it seriously.)
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To: palmer

The cashisnt gone, its called income by another person.


184 posted on 10/16/2011 6:45:34 AM PDT by driftdiver (I could eat it raw, but why do that when I have a fire.)
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To: Cincinatus' Wife

185 posted on 10/16/2011 6:47:47 AM PDT by McGruff (www.conservativepartyusa.com - Check it out)
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To: mylife

You are telling me no one pays 9% more on earnings already taxed and saved?


They pay 9% more than the new low prices caused by eliminating lots of embedded taxes. Not 9% more than current prices.


186 posted on 10/16/2011 6:47:51 AM PDT by Atlas Sneezed (Author of BullionBible.com - Makes You a Precious Metal Expert, Guaranteed.)
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To: driftdiver; Cincinatus' Wife

Then, as a good religious man, how could you vote for Cain?

After all, you base your vote on a person’s last name... and G-d cursed Cain, you know.

:-P


187 posted on 10/16/2011 6:47:55 AM PDT by gogogodzilla (Live free or die!)
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To: Beagle8U

Things you already pay taxes on at a higher rate.


188 posted on 10/16/2011 6:48:42 AM PDT by driftdiver (I could eat it raw, but why do that when I have a fire.)
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To: mylife

Oh, the plan is garage sales?
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If we are to use garage sales to avoid retail, will *Resale Roundup* be addressed? Though, I do suppose that law falls under the democrats ‘jobs created/saved’ plan—lawyers have a new open door.

Also, if they don’t remove the 9% on food people are SOL, as I doubt anyone will be seeking out ABC food. Though we could suggest our seniors dumpster dive. Seems to be somewhat the rage these days.

http://www.foxnews.com/us/2009/09/18/new-government-policy-imposes-strict-standards-garage-sales-nationwide/

I give Cain a pass on the bailout mess, many big-heads thought it was a good idea. Owning the banks? The only republican I recall that thought that might be a good idea is Lindsey Graham. There may be more...it has been a while. Graham is just the one that stands out to me.

Cain’s position to own the banks registers as—Fed man— in my thinking. And how good was that Greenspan, best in last 40 years!


189 posted on 10/16/2011 6:49:54 AM PDT by Irenic
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To: driftdiver

All those ‘hidden’ savings that we’ll never see?


190 posted on 10/16/2011 6:53:10 AM PDT by Beagle8U (Free Republic -- One stop shopping ....... It's the Conservative Super WalMart for news .)
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To: Nervous Tick
If 9-9-9 was thought out from a political standpoint, because ultimately you have to sell it over opposition attacks on it, and if his border stance was more than something to rile up the crowds, he could be taken more seriously.

Even if Cain were to upset Perry, Romney will crush him in a one on one debate.

191 posted on 10/16/2011 6:56:29 AM PDT by normy (Don't take it personally, just take it seriously.)
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To: Beagle8U

But SS and savings were already taxed once, 999 will tax it again.


If you’re on SS, then every dollar you’re receiving is taxation of some current earner. That earner will be paying sales tax when they purchase with their after-tax earnings.

What makes you so special that you shouldn’t pay a tax that those who support you are paying?


192 posted on 10/16/2011 6:56:50 AM PDT by Atlas Sneezed (Author of BullionBible.com - Makes You a Precious Metal Expert, Guaranteed.)
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To: Cincinatus' Wife

Herman Cain is going to be vetted for the 2012 election?

Is Obama going to be vetted for the 2012 election?


193 posted on 10/16/2011 6:56:56 AM PDT by abclily
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To: Beagle8U; All

So I guess you are saying there is no hidden taxes on goods and services right? Where is your proof?

Here is mine before you ask.

http://www.ipi.org/ipi%5CIPIPublications.nsf/PublicationLookupFullText/A9A7AA39F78128BB86256AB700627702


194 posted on 10/16/2011 6:57:09 AM PDT by Watchdog85
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To: Beagle8U

Those ‘hidden taxes’ will wind up a hidden savings too. We will never see them.


This makes no sense. Please explain.


195 posted on 10/16/2011 7:00:46 AM PDT by Atlas Sneezed (Author of BullionBible.com - Makes You a Precious Metal Expert, Guaranteed.)
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To: palmer

Thank you for the link and the information.


196 posted on 10/16/2011 7:01:32 AM PDT by Cincinatus' Wife
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To: mylife

Under Cains plan your sales tax will go up %9 and the FEDs will be on you for it.


You post basically the same thing over and over. I envision you trying to type with your fingers in your ears, ignoring all the rational responses.


197 posted on 10/16/2011 7:03:07 AM PDT by Atlas Sneezed (Author of BullionBible.com - Makes You a Precious Metal Expert, Guaranteed.)
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To: palmer; shield
If you have a ping list, please put me on it. I am especially interested if there is a transcript or written plan that I can read (video is horrible on my internet connection)

shield -- FReeper palmer wants on the *ping" list -- is interested in upcoming Gov. Perry policy roll-outs.

Thanks.

198 posted on 10/16/2011 7:05:00 AM PDT by Cincinatus' Wife
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To: Beagle8U

Hardly the same thing at all. One can be shown mathmaticaly, the other only in leftists minds.


199 posted on 10/16/2011 7:05:44 AM PDT by driftdiver (I could eat it raw, but why do that when I have a fire.)
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To: Beelzebubba
If someone is getting SS now, they already paid taxes on it to support all those that came before them.

All their after tax savings have already been taxed. A national sales tax, like 999, is a total fail. DOA along with who it is tied to.

200 posted on 10/16/2011 7:06:26 AM PDT by Beagle8U (Free Republic -- One stop shopping ....... It's the Conservative Super WalMart for news .)
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