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To: CharlesWayneCT

Why on earth would I feel bad? The points stand. Laugh as you will. Do you think Cain is joking about seriously containing the border?

BTW, answer post 827.


864 posted on 10/16/2011 9:34:35 AM PDT by Norm Lenhart (Chief Druid of Trollhenge: Cult of Palin)
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To: Norm Lenhart

I already answered it, but I’ll do it again. DO you shoot kids who cut across your front yard? The idea that crossing the border is a capital offence is for East Germany, China, the old Soviet Union. Kill murderers, not trespassers.

Geez, maybe we should electrocute people who sneak into movie theatres as well.

Do I think Cain was joking about seriously “containing” the border? Yes — or at least, I think that if it becomes unpopular, he will SAY he was joking.

I also think he is playing a joke on us if he is pretending he’ll build a fence around the entire border. First, because he won’t fence an inch of the gulf coast or the pacific ocean, even though both are our borders. Second because he’ll never build a fence across the entire border of Texas, a fact you would understand if you just pull up a google map and zoom in on the border and inspect a dozen miles of it.

If you do that, you will find that the “border” doesn’t follow the current river path. It crosses back and forth. So you’d have to build a fence that sometimes was in the middle of the river, sometimes on our side, sometimes on the other side. Except where the river has meandered enough, landowners actually OWN land on both sides of the border, which means you’d essentially build a fence across a person’s property, even though they have a natural right as a property owner to be on both sides.

Maybe you are one of those crazy people who think we should just give up the rights to a major river to Mexico, just so you can build a fence completely on our side.

Or worse, you think we should go to war with Mexico to take over the river so we can build the fence on THEIR side and cut THEM off from the river.

I know at least one freeper, when reminded that a fence on our side would kill off wildlife that depended on water access, said it was worth it to kill our desert ecosystem in Texas in order to “secure” our border.

That even though a good number of illegals came here legally, and then overstayed their welcome. The fence does nothing for that — what you need is real border security, and a real reform of our guest worker program. What is Cain’s plan to reform the guest worker program? Perry has been DEALING with border security for years as Governor of Texas, while Cain has DONE nothing at all. Of all the candidates, Perry is the ONLY candidate who has actually taken concrete STEPS to secure our border.

Meanwhile, you should feel bad, because you defended Cain, explaining why we should kill people who try to cross our border, and then Cain said you were stupid because you didn’t know he was joking.


905 posted on 10/16/2011 10:45:43 PM PDT by CharlesWayneCT
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