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Cain Proposes Electrified Border Fence
Pravda- NY Times Division ^ | 10/15/11 | Wyatt

Posted on 10/15/2011 4:18:53 PM PDT by VinL

Republican presidential candidate Herman Cain said Saturday that part of his immigration policy would be to build an electrified fence on the country’s border with Mexico that could kill people trying to enter the country illegally...

Mr. Cain added that he also would consider using military troops “with real guns and real bullets” on the border to stop illegal immigration.

The remarks were among the most pointed yet by Mr. Cain about illegal immigration, and they come as he is enjoying a surge in national political polls on the back of his victory in a recent Florida straw poll..

It is not the first time that Mr. Cain has floated the idea of an electrified fence. He has told the story many times of a caller to his former radio show who chastised him for talking about building a border fence, saying that such an idea was impractical.

“It’s going to be 20 feet high. It’s going to have barbed wire on the top. It’s going to be electrified. And there’s going to be a sign on the other side saying, ‘It will kill you — Warning.’” At an earlier rally, on the campus of Tennessee Tech University in Cookeville, Tenn., he added that the sign would be written “in English and in Spanish.”

“This nation has always been a nation with wide open doors,” Mr. Cain said at the second rally. “We want to make it easy for people to come through the front door. And we’re going to shut off the back door so you don’t have to sneak into America.”

(Excerpt) Read more at thecaucus.blogs.nytimes.com ...


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To: Arizona Carolyn
Everyone speaks to LaRaza, that is just a fact... but by all means flush the Hispanic vote down the tubes

Everyone? Now you're being ridiculous....go away...

661 posted on 10/15/2011 10:37:31 PM PDT by Niteflyr ("The number one goal in life is to parent yourself" Carl Jung)
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To: circlecity

Sorry, we couldn’t get any sharks.

The are an endangered species.


662 posted on 10/15/2011 10:37:45 PM PDT by Hammerhead
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To: Niteflyr

Monitor the border (esp remote areas) with thermal sensing drones. Return the catch to the border. It will sink in.


663 posted on 10/15/2011 10:38:30 PM PDT by seton89 (Starve the Beast)
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To: jgge

“Then based on your very sick idea may be some Vigilante lunatics can go to the borders and machine gun a dozen of illegal immigrants and then the illegal immigration problem would be solved. “

Well if you think the Border Patrol and military are “Vigilante lunitics” then you’re DEFINITELY at the wrong site. My point was that if we shoot illegals it will not be a bloodbath, but rather a handful will test the system, and lose...and that will be the end of our problem with the border.

A hell of a lot more illegals than that die EVERY YEAR in the Arizona desert.


664 posted on 10/15/2011 10:38:37 PM PDT by BobL (A vote for Perry is a vote for Romney)
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To: seton89
Monitor the border (esp remote areas) with thermal sensing drones. Return the catch to the border. It will sink in.

Yes agreed. A fence is only a partial solution...

665 posted on 10/15/2011 10:39:34 PM PDT by Niteflyr ("The number one goal in life is to parent yourself" Carl Jung)
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To: BobL

I’ve lived in Houston and in Katy since 1977.
I’m a born and raised Texan.

They were not my words but the words of a Texas State Representative.

http://www.texasgopvote.com/2012-presidential-election/most-conservative-state-representative-texas-endorses-rick-perry-president-expla-003248


666 posted on 10/15/2011 10:39:38 PM PDT by TexMom7
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To: livius

“However, even from a political point of view, this shows that Cain is just winging it. He is saying whatever he thinks will serve to destroy Perry ... but he seems to be unaware of the fact that just 4% of the electorate indicates immigration (of any kind) as their main concern. So I think Cain is playing to an imaginary base, and in doing so, is revealing his game.”

If 4% REALLY was it on illegal immigration, Perry would still be leading.


667 posted on 10/15/2011 10:40:21 PM PDT by BobL (A vote for Perry is a vote for Romney)
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To: BobL; mylife
I agree...it certainly doesn’t look bogus to me.

The link worked fine in your #116 and in my #466 and #552. I flubbed the HTML in #519 which isn't the same as being bogus either.

As far as representing NPR as "the defacto news source on fences and border control" the first word in my post was "Even" which was a defacto caveat that NPR was the opposite of a "defacto news source." Of course reading comprehension is required to figure that out and we're dealing with something that doesn't read.

668 posted on 10/15/2011 10:41:09 PM PDT by TigersEye (Life is about choices. Your choices. Make good ones.)
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To: VinL

Regreso a su lado de la frontera.

Usted tiene 10 segundos para cumplir ...
Usted tiene 9 segundos para cumplir ...
Usted tiene 8 segundos para cumplir ...

-PJ

669 posted on 10/15/2011 10:41:12 PM PDT by Political Junkie Too (Everyone's Irish on St. Patrick's Day, Mexican on Cinco de Mayo, and American on Election Day.)
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To: mylife

“Well I know this for sure, Perry wont hang a 9% National sales tax on us and tell us its sugar.”Well I know this for sure, Perry wont hang a 9% National sales tax on us and tell us its sugar.”

Well Perry won’t get rid of the Social Security tax.

So there.


670 posted on 10/15/2011 10:41:20 PM PDT by BobL (A vote for Perry is a vote for Romney)
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To: BobL
If 4% REALLY was it on illegal immigration, Perry would still be leading.

Yep anyone who thinks it's 4% is smoking some good ganja....

671 posted on 10/15/2011 10:42:48 PM PDT by Niteflyr ("The number one goal in life is to parent yourself" Carl Jung)
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To: Niteflyr

The tunnels don’t end in Chicago.


672 posted on 10/15/2011 10:43:13 PM PDT by seton89 (Starve the Beast)
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To: altura

It is very sad that some on our side have reached this very low level, very sad.


673 posted on 10/15/2011 10:43:21 PM PDT by jgge
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To: hocndoc

“I’ve asked you before about tetanus shots, and you didn’t answer. Are you against all mandated vaccines for children and do you really believe that vaccines increase risky behaviour?”

I’m against the government mandating that little girls get shots so that they can have wild and crazy sex in their teen years (i.e., the only reason for Gardacil). I have NO PROBLEM with other shots and my kids all have theirs.

But let me ask you this. Would you agree that girls that get pregnant should be forced to get abortions? I don’t, but I suspect Gardacil supporters would be good with that, since that pretty much clears the field for the teen girls to have their sex.


674 posted on 10/15/2011 10:44:18 PM PDT by BobL (A vote for Perry is a vote for Romney)
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To: altura

I’d like to hear a good argument against shooting people crossing illegally into our country, violating our sovereignty. Something more than “it’s mean,” or “it’s not part of our values.” Something, you know, substantive.

UNLESS you’re one of those people who would object to a person shooting an intruder breaking into his house.

I like the idea, particularly since my own idea isn’t catching on.

I’ve always favored an “illegal hunting season.” Make it a couple of weeks int he Fall, like deer season. Now what if you shoot someone who isn’t illegal? Well, then you go to jail. You take your chances.

Hank


675 posted on 10/15/2011 10:44:44 PM PDT by County Agent Hank Kimball (Screw it. Newt's the smartest candidate and the guy I want to see debating Obummer. Flame away.)
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To: Just mythoughts

so tell me Einstein, how do you fence Lake Amistad? Falcon Lake? Did you watch the Fox Special last week that went into the murder of Brian Terry? Did you happen to see the terrain there? Have you been to the Grand Canyon? Much of the terrain is very similar to the Grand Canyon, not fenceable... and you didn’t answer my question about taking away the land that is in private hands all along the border? Guess your non-answer is an answer, you don’t care..... and these ranchers are all supposed to go out of business because their cattle no longer have access to water? You must not eat meat, because we are talking about a lot of Cattle Ranches in TX that depend on the Rio Grande to water their cattle.


676 posted on 10/15/2011 10:45:06 PM PDT by Arizona Carolyn
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To: tirednvirginia

“Electrocuting children and babies?”

Why do you believe hat babies fo some reason have to enter America illegally,even if an electricfence were in front of them?

What mother and baby would climb an electric fence?

Use some logic. No one would cross sucha fence and there is no reaso they should.

I think Cain’s point is they have no right crossing illegally and we have every right to put something there to stop them.


677 posted on 10/15/2011 10:46:22 PM PDT by Williams (Honey Badger Don't Care)
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To: Arizona Carolyn

“Everyone speaks to LaRaza, that is just a fact..”

YOU NAILED IT. That’s the point with Cain, he doesn’t need to pay homage to them are any other American-hating group.


678 posted on 10/15/2011 10:47:30 PM PDT by BobL (A vote for Perry is a vote for Romney)
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To: BobL

I just cant get through to you can I?

We cant just mow down people with 999, .999 cal machine guns because they are looking for a better life.

You ignore Mr Cains Violent and unjustified weasel words.

BY all means, please give the drug cartels and sex traffickers all the hell they deserve, and get under the US LAW.

But I will not sign on to the notion that we should machine gun down people looking for economic freedom.
For the record, I believe it is unjust for the USA to pay for the incarceration of the SOBS that we actually can jail due to federal crimes.

Rick Perry sent Obama a bill for housing the scum in our prisons.


679 posted on 10/15/2011 10:48:18 PM PDT by mylife (The Roar Of The Masses Could Be Farts)
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To: mylife

“Have YOU ever gotten off your sorry bottom...”

You need to cut down on your drinking. It’s getting late.


680 posted on 10/15/2011 10:48:25 PM PDT by BobL (A vote for Perry is a vote for Romney)
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