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Op-Ed: Gilad Shalit: The Least Terrible Deal
Arutz Sheva ^ | 14/10/11 | Hagai Humberman

Posted on 10/15/2011 2:38:26 PM PDT by Eleutheria5

The writer, a veteran right wing newsman, analyzes the security aspects of the Shalit deal. They are better than the previous ones, he says, leaving moral and political considerations aside for now.

Haggai Huberman The author is a noted military correspondent, a veteran reporter for Arutz Sheva and regular columnist in the Hebrew weekly BeSheva. ► More from this writer

If I were a cabinet minister, I would vote for the deal to ransom Shalit, not because it is a good one, which it most definitely is not, but because for once, just this once, this is a deal that we can live with – barely.

The choice in this case is not between a good and a bad deal. The cabinet ministers had to choose between a terribly bad deal and one that is the least terrible. And this deal is the least terrible of them all.

I wish to examine the deal from one aspect only – the security aspect, not the moral or the political aspect – as those deserve separate consideration.

Hamas gave in on two significant points – it is important to remember that Hamas has agreed to leave the most hardcore terrorists in jail, such as the commander in chief of terror in Judea and Samaria, Marwan Barghouti, the Hamas commander there, Ibrahim Hamid and his operations officer Abdallah Barghouti.

Abbas al-Sayed who carried out the 2002 Netanya Park Hotel massacre on Passover, Ahmed Sa'adat who was responsible for the murder of MK Rehavam Ze’evi Hy”d [may G-d avenge his blood, an expression used for victims of anti-Semitism ed.], the Hamas chief officer in Gaza Hassan Salameh and others, will remain imprisoned.

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TOPICS: Editorial; Israel; News/Current Events; War on Terror
KEYWORDS: deal; hamas; israel; shalit; sucks
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21 posted on 10/15/2011 4:57:40 PM PDT by RedMDer (Forward With Confidence!)
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To: LastNorwegian

Expulsion happens, true. But it will not happen that way here. Aside from the fact that we Jooos! are a bunch of soft-hearted fools, we’ve never actually done any wholesale expulsions. It was unnecessary, because in 1948, the Arabs all ran after hearing the false, exaggerated rumors circulating about what happened in Deir Yassin. It would have happened in 1967, but Moshe Dayan stupidly opened his mouth and said that the Jews have no claim to Yesha, and promised to give it all back. The Arabs looking to flee from the wicked Jooos! then unpacked their bags and stayed. A similar thing will happen should we have to fight and conclusively win another major war, only this time Moshe Dayan won’t be around to make stupid statements.

It’s not a desirable result here, because unfortunately there are many Jews mixed in with the Arab population. These are called “tinukot shenishbu” in Jewish law. Their mothers were rebellious teenagers/leftist idiots/abductees who ended up forcibly married to Arabs. Their children must not be abandoned by the Jewish community, as they would be if there were an expulsion. There are also entire tribes of Bedouins who have for centuries been practicing Jewish rites in secret, who are descendants of Jews forced to convert to Islam. Similar communities have come out in the open in recent years in Portugal and Spain, now that the Inquisition is gone. I’ll take my chances with the Arabs we have with us for the sake of those of my people trapped among them, and the hopes of freeing them.

It’s also a fact that the Arab construction workers get the job done. I know from my own observations, and what the Jewish contractor who hires them tells me. Jewish crews have chronic absenteeisms. Consequently, for various anthropological reasons, the Arabs dominate construction here.

I would favor paying Arabs wishing to emigrate a “sal pleita” or emigrant package commensurate with what Jews are paid as “sal klita” or immigration packages. They could use that package to resettle elsewhere.

But mass expulsions will not and should not happen, both for the reasons enumerated above, and because it’s something that Muslims do to non-Muslims which marks them as barbarians, as per all of your examples.

Incidentally, the Jews of Morrocco voluntarily emigrated. They were not expelled, but wanted an existence as something other than dhimmes. This I’ve heard from Moroccans who made the move to Israel.


22 posted on 10/15/2011 5:25:49 PM PDT by Eleutheria5 (End the occupation. Annex today.)
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To: LastNorwegian

Expulsion happens, true. But it will not happen that way here. Aside from the fact that we Jooos! are a bunch of soft-hearted fools, we’ve never actually done any wholesale expulsions. It was unnecessary, because in 1948, the Arabs all ran after hearing the false, exaggerated rumors circulating about what happened in Deir Yassin. It would have happened in 1967, but Moshe Dayan stupidly opened his mouth and said that the Jews have no claim to Yesha, and promised to give it all back. The Arabs looking to flee from the wicked Jooos! then unpacked their bags and stayed. A similar thing will happen should we have to fight and conclusively win another major war, only this time Moshe Dayan won’t be around to make stupid statements.

It’s not a desirable result here, because unfortunately there are many Jews mixed in with the Arab population. These are called “tinukot shenishbu” in Jewish law. Their mothers were rebellious teenagers/leftist idiots/abductees who ended up forcibly married to Arabs. Their children must not be abandoned by the Jewish community, as they would be if there were an expulsion. There are also entire tribes of Bedouins who have for centuries been practicing Jewish rites in secret, who are descendants of Jews forced to convert to Islam. Similar communities have come out in the open in recent years in Portugal and Spain, now that the Inquisition is gone. I’ll take my chances with the Arabs we have with us for the sake of those of my people trapped among them, and the hopes of freeing them.

It’s also a fact that the Arab construction workers get the job done. I know from my own observations, and what the Jewish contractor who hires them tells me. Jewish crews have chronic absenteeisms. Consequently, for various anthropological reasons, the Arabs dominate construction here.

I would favor paying Arabs wishing to emigrate a “sal pleita” or emigrant package commensurate with what Jews are paid as “sal klita” or immigration packages. They could use that package to resettle elsewhere.

But mass expulsions will not and should not happen, both for the reasons enumerated above, and because it’s something that Muslims do to non-Muslims which marks them as barbarians, as per all of your examples.

Incidentally, the Jews of Morrocco voluntarily emigrated. They were not expelled, but wanted an existence as something other than dhimmes. This I’ve heard from Moroccans who made the move to Israel.


23 posted on 10/15/2011 5:25:51 PM PDT by Eleutheria5 (End the occupation. Annex today.)
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To: PapaBear3625

No untils. Just keep at it.


24 posted on 10/15/2011 5:27:08 PM PDT by Eleutheria5 (End the occupation. Annex today.)
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To: Eleutheria5

Expulsion wouldn’t do anything to the need for construction, it would merely change where the construction took place.


25 posted on 10/16/2011 3:32:11 AM PDT by SunkenCiv (It's never a bad time to FReep this link -- https://secure.freerepublic.com/donate/)
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To: Eleutheria5
My deal from Day 1: Shut off the water, electricity, and fod deliveries to Gaza until the hostage is returned. Bibi is making a big mistake here.
26 posted on 10/16/2011 3:36:52 AM PDT by Shqipo (I am AttackWatch parolee #1,237. I am breaking my parole once more.)
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To: SunkenCiv

It would also remove the work force doing the construction.

Today I was in Bat Ayin. They do not permit Arabs into the gate, not to work and not to pass through. They do have some ongoing construction, now that the freeze is over, and because they are the only town with these strictures, they can find workers to do the job. But expel all Arabs from Israel, and the few Jewish construction workers will suddenly be stretched too thin. Construction will grind to a crawl, and the land will not be developed.


27 posted on 10/16/2011 2:53:46 PM PDT by Eleutheria5 (End the occupation. Annex today.)
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To: Eleutheria5

Once the Arabs are removed, unemployed construction workers from the US would be more than willing to work in Israel.

BTW, this reminds me of a Rodney Dangerfield routine.


28 posted on 10/16/2011 4:58:38 PM PDT by SunkenCiv (It's never a bad time to FReep this link -- https://secure.freerepublic.com/donate/)
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To: SunkenCiv

Not if the Mexicans get here first. What’s a transatlantic flight when you’re talking those high, non-union wages?


29 posted on 10/16/2011 5:16:17 PM PDT by Eleutheria5 (End the occupation. Annex today.)
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