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Bachmann signs border security pledge [The BIG Announcement??]
Politico ^ | October 15, 2011 | MAGGIE HABERMAN |

Posted on 10/15/2011 10:51:27 AM PDT by Cincinatus' Wife

Michele Bachmann, campaigning in Perry, Iowa, hit border security hard in a clear bid to contrast herself with Rick Perry, per Kay Henderson:

By signing this one, Bachmann is promising that she will secure the border if she’s elected president.

Van Hipp of South Carolina, chairman of Americans for Securing the Borders, told me in an interview that too many candidates have paid mere “lip service” to the issue. “Nothing really gets done,” Hipp said. “We believe by having a pledge like this it really is the best way to hold the politicians’ feet to the fire so we’re calling on all federal candidates for president, for senate and for the House to sign the pledge to secure the border of this country and to make America safer.” Continue Reading

According to Hipp, the group issued this “pledge” challenge in the “past week or so” and Bachmann is the first presidential candidate to sign it. “The first one with the backbone to step up to the plate and get serious about this is Michele Bachmann,” Hipp said.

I asked if his group had heard from the Perry campaign (it hasn’t) and I specifically asked whether Rick Perry’s support for the Texas policy which grants a college tuition break to illegal immigrants in some way “disqualifies” Perry on the immigration issue.

“We want him to sign the pledge,” Hipp said. “…We are looking forward to the other candidates signing the pledge as well.”


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Bachmann: BIG Announcement This Afternoon

""How do you solve it? You build a barrier, a fence, a wall - whatever you want to call it. You build it. As president of the United States, every mile, every yard, every foot, every inch will be covered on that southern border."

A House legislator from MN who doesn't know one thing about border security would find it easy and politically expedient to sign a pledge.

1 posted on 10/15/2011 10:51:36 AM PDT by Cincinatus' Wife
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To: Cincinatus' Wife
Oct 6, 2011 Interviewing Rick Perry On Illegal Immigration [10 Questions]

Perry attacks administration at campaign stop in Hampton, N.H......"On immigration policy, Perry said he is opposed to amnesty and will always be opposed to amnesty. "For decades we have had a federal government that has failed its constitutional duty to protect its borders," he said. "You have to ask, are we going to have a president that is going to stop the illegal activities happening on the border?"

2 posted on 10/15/2011 10:53:45 AM PDT by Cincinatus' Wife
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To: Cincinatus' Wife
Flip. Flop. Trans. Texas. Corridor.

Sorry, Ricardo, most Americans aren't as gullible and territorially jingoistic as your in-state supporters.

Oh, and by the way, Ricardo, here's your T-shirt:

Cheers!

3 posted on 10/15/2011 10:55:58 AM PDT by grey_whiskers (The opinions are solely those of the author and are subject to change without notice.)
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Rick Perry Says Texas Can Learn From Israeli -- August 2009 — “Gov. Rick Perry compared Mexico to the Gaza strip, saying Texas can learn from Israeli security efforts after touring a town that has been hit by Palestinian rockets.

Perry, who has demanded a heightened U.S. troop presence along the Rio Grande, went to Israel’s border with Gaza earlier with week and was briefed by Israeli Army officials.

“Kassam rockets have killed 28 Israelis over the last eight years. Well, 1,000 people have been killed in Juarez since the beginning of the year,” the governor told the Jerusalem Post in Friday’s editions, referring to the drug-related killings across the border from El Paso. “So we’re trying to find ways to secure that border, because just like it’s important to Israelis to keep heavy security on their border with Gaza, it’s important to citizens of Texas to keep out the illegal activities that are going on with drugs.”

4 posted on 10/15/2011 10:56:29 AM PDT by Cincinatus' Wife
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To: Cincinatus' Wife

Here’s hoping this latest stunt takes her down another notch.


5 posted on 10/15/2011 10:57:13 AM PDT by jersey117
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To: Cincinatus' Wife

How about signing a pledge to get elected first?


6 posted on 10/15/2011 10:58:19 AM PDT by TheRobb7 (OBAMA 2012: NO TAX LEFT BEHIND)
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http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/bloggers/2782666/posts?page=1#comment

THE TRUTH FOUND A VOICE IN RICK PERRY [vanity]

FoxNews-Google GOP Primary Debate [September 22, 2011] Gov. Rick Perry: [snip] ………If you say that we should not educate children who have come into our state for no other reason than that they’ve been brought there, through no fault of their own, I don’t think you have a heart. We need to be educating these children because they will become a drag on our society. I think that’s what Texans wanted to do. Out of 181 members of the Texas legislature, when this issue came up — only four dissenting votes. This was a state issue. Texas voted on it. And I still support it greatly. [end] Texas Gov. Rick Perry responding to a question by Chris Wallace

Gov. Rick Perry has stated (for years) that the U.S. border with Mexico must be sealed. He has requested assistance (many people on the ground and drones in the air for Intel – he has studied how this is done in Israel). As Governor of Texas, he has been rebuked in person by the current president, who refuses his pleas for the Federal government to do its duty and provide the necessary means by which to seal our country’s international border with Mexico. The governor’s written requests go unheeded.

Texas spends hundreds of millions of dollars of state money to defend its border with Mexico. An elite Texas Ranger unit, put together by Perry, is working to hold the line on our border. Rick Perry has stated that fences do work in urban areas but are not effective, let alone feasible, along the 2000 mile Mexico - U.S. border (1200 miles in Texas alone). The Federal government ignores this problem, while at the same time blaming and punishing border governors when they try to protect their states. People in other states, without understanding the facts, blame border governors when this federally manufactured problem spreads into their states.

President Obama believes security is just fine on the border (better in fact than before he took office) and frankly, he’s following past examples where foreigners are allowed to cross into the U.S., where those with work visas are allowed to slip into U.S. society without any earnest, federal or court action to prevent it, where states are not allowed to ask children their legal status before attending school, where healthcare is accessible to everyone and where federal “social justice” programs have been put into place, thus beginning the progressive process of teaching new generations that it is “normal” to be dependent on government largess. [funded by those “more fortunate” Americans]

Then, periodically, another couple of generations are proclaimed by the federal government to be in the U.S. legally, by magnanimously proclaiming, “You can come out of the dark now and stay.” [sign up here for your Democratic Party voter card]

Rick Perry, as president, wants to finally seal the border and stop the flow of illegal immigrants and drugs – stop those vile cartels who traffic in human beings and drugs, and secure a dangerous, porous entry used by terrorists seeking to destroy America. The current administration is willfully enabling those who prefer border security remain as it is, those who characteristically (for self interest) want to avoid addressing and dealing with these problems.

Undeniably, Governor Perry is the GOP candidate most familiar with this issue and the problems associated with it. Texas has a long and rich history with Mexico. Mexico is the number one trading partner with America. Many U.S. citizens have Mexican ancestors who are proud Texans and Americans, many who have, are, and are willing to fight for America. Hispanics are the largest minority living in the United States. They have a high birth rate and are a major minority voting demographic. This didn’t happen because Texas shares over 1200 miles of international border with Mexico. The current magnitude of the problem, along with the number of the illegals in Texas and the United States, has everything to do with historic and current Federal inaction.

The Federal government looks to the states and tells them to “deal with it.” So state governments and their citizens have to “deal with” crime and a fast growing, uneducated population that puts a huge strain on state and federal resources. The resulting fall out for state government is, “you’re damned if you do and “you’re damned if you don’t.” Gov. Perry and the Texas Legislature have accepted the criticism for taking the “damned if we do” path because they’re “dealing with it” first hand and Texans understand that “we’re damned if we don’t.” These children are here, their potential and future has been put on our watch — it is a practical and human decision and as Rick Perry said, “You don’t have a heart if you don’t.”

In 2001 the Texas Legislature voted in an Act (signed by Gov. Rick Perry) allowing children brought to the U.S. illegally (basically stateless people) by their parents, who complete 3 years of high school in Texas (graduate and want to attend college) to apply for U.S. citizenship and pay instate tuition. Their “anchor baby” siblings have this right by virtue of the 14th Amendment (that gave citizenship to children of slaves – slavery was abolished by the 13th Amendment). If the country wants to abolish “anchor babies,” a majority of states need to vote for a change to the U.S. Constitution. The Texas education program is called the Texas Dream Act. The Texas Dream Act is not the same as the rejected Federal Dream Act proposed by the U.S. Senate because that federal legislation in totality and reality was an immigration bill.

The purpose of the Texas Dream Act is to have successful, educated citizens contributing toward a strong economy — not unemployed or underemployed school dropouts who place a huge drain on our system [and begin generational poverty in their communities]. As past Federal actions have repeatedly shown Texas, illegal immigrants most likely will be allowed to stay. So the smart thing to do is allow them to pay instate tuition and be contributing citizens versus benefits receiving citizens. Gov. Mitt Romney does not agree with this and in fact rejected this approach in Massachusetts.

The truth found a voice in Rick Perry. Gov. Perry has said and believes that Conservative Ascendancy is how we will bring America back from the brink. Besides getting Americans working again we need to show them the value of conservatism and how those values encourage and support strong families and a free country.

Last night former Gov. Mitt Romney sounded like a “Snidley Whiplash-Simon Legree” character, while Gov. Rick Perry was “Dudley do right” looking after “Little Orphan Annie.” How do you think Barack Obama will (or won’t) play these sound bites in his re-election bid for 4 more years?

Mitt Romney wants the status quo, which continues to feed the pipeline of generational, programmed victims — driving trapped and dependent people into the arms of the growing army of the Democratic “fight for social justice” Party. Rick Perry wants to change the status quo and bring more voters into freedom – businesses owners, entrepreneurs eager to join the Republican Conservative Ascendancy Party – no matter what their last name or color, or gender or faith. And the border must be sealed first in order to do this.

Do the math. Rush Limbaugh has. Rush, like Gov. Perry, wants everyone to succeed (not secede). Rush, like Rick Perry, knows we’re at the crossroads that will decided the future path of the United States (and the world). Will it be Perpetual Dependency or Conservative Ascendancy? Democratic Party leaders are herding us into warring camps hoping to take us on the road to socialism. The states must take back power from the Federal government and get this country back on the road to free market capitalism.

This isn’t a Sound Bite issue.

“Nice try” Mitt.


7 posted on 10/15/2011 11:00:09 AM PDT by Cincinatus' Wife
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To: Cincinatus' Wife
in a clear bid to contrast herself with Rick Perry,

She does have a point. The second tier candidates, like Perry and Bachmann do tend to fade into the background.

8 posted on 10/15/2011 11:00:40 AM PDT by perfect_rovian_storm (Perry's idea of border control: Use both hands to welcome the illegals right in)
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To: Cincinatus' Wife

The last big pledge everyone jumped on (the anti-abortion pledge in New Orleans) didn’t do so well, as they had to rewrite the thing after everyone signed it.

I’m not a big fan of pledges.

No doubt, this is a shot at Perry (signing it in Perry, Iowa though is just a little too cute by half, imho).

While this may cause some problems for Perry, I don’t see how it helps Bachmann. Any Perry supporters that peel off because of this are unlikely to jump on Bachmann’s bandwagon.

Eric Erickson made a good point on his radio show. When Romney threw the softball question at Bachmann, one of Bachmann’s main financial backers realized that the Bachmann campaign was dead, because it was obvious to everyone watching that Romney is trying to keep her running, because she doesn’t have a chance of winning. The only thing she can do at this point is prevent support from consolidating behind a single anti-Romney candidate.

Obvious, I should have said, to everyone watching but Bachmann herself.


9 posted on 10/15/2011 11:01:41 AM PDT by Brookhaven (999 Tax Calculator: http://goo.gl/AHsjH)
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To: Cincinatus' Wife; shield; Liz
"On immigration policy, Perry said he is opposed to amnesty and will always be opposed to amnesty. "

BOGUS!

So why does Perry favor in-state tuition for illegal alien college students?

Why did Perry say if they didn't receive in-state tuition they'd go on the dole... as opposed to paying the tuition themselves, not going to college, or being sent home?

What does Perry expect these in-state tuition educate college grads to do next... work in the US illegally, go back to their home country after graduating, live on the dole until they obtain legal status?

Perry's stance on in-state tuition is nothing but a pre-cursor to Shamnesty!

10 posted on 10/15/2011 11:01:55 AM PDT by DTogo (High time to bring back the Sons of Liberty !!)
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To: jersey117
Here’s hoping this latest stunt takes her down another notch.

It's all she has left - campaign fund raising totals are due today.

11 posted on 10/15/2011 11:02:20 AM PDT by Cincinatus' Wife
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To: grey_whiskers

The question is: will Perry do the right thing and drop out rather than trying to siphon off just enough conservative votes from Cain to give the nomination to Romney?

Any vote for Perry is a vote for Romney at this point. He should do the right thing and go back home to Texas.


12 posted on 10/15/2011 11:02:20 AM PDT by perfect_rovian_storm (Perry's idea of border control: Use both hands to welcome the illegals right in)
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To: DTogo

educated


13 posted on 10/15/2011 11:03:16 AM PDT by DTogo (High time to bring back the Sons of Liberty !!)
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To: grey_whiskers

As one at FR who has not chosen a cadiodate yet, I must say I’m very disappointed in you GW, for becoming low brow so easily.


14 posted on 10/15/2011 11:04:03 AM PDT by MHGinTN (Some, believing they can't be deceived, it's nigh impossible to convince them when they're deceived.)
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To: DTogo

Talk to the Federal government and read Post # 7.


15 posted on 10/15/2011 11:04:21 AM PDT by Cincinatus' Wife
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To: Cincinatus' Wife
A House legislator from MN who doesn't know one thing about border security would find it easy and politically expedient to sign a pledge.

That white area above Minnesota is called Canada. Nit picking? Maybe so but the one thing you seem unwilling to accept is hyperbole is not looked upon as favorable here on FR.


16 posted on 10/15/2011 11:04:41 AM PDT by mazda77
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To: Cincinatus' Wife

She stands about as much chance of being elected president as my Farmall tractor.


17 posted on 10/15/2011 11:04:50 AM PDT by Past Your Eyes (I'm sticking with Herman. No more second terms!)
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To: perfect_rovian_storm
I agree. Perry should be content to remain Thane of Cawdor and not let his power-hungry wife dictate to him.

Cheers!

18 posted on 10/15/2011 11:05:03 AM PDT by grey_whiskers (The opinions are solely those of the author and are subject to change without notice.)
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To: Cincinatus' Wife

By signing this one, Bachmann is promising that she will secure the border if she’s elected president.


At 2% or so I don’t think Bachmann will have to worry about any pledges she may sign.


19 posted on 10/15/2011 11:06:45 AM PDT by deport
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To: Cincinatus' Wife

Sure stop them at the border while luring them in with sanctuary cities, jobs, welfare, housing, medicaid and “free” education for their kids. How about champagne and chocolates?


20 posted on 10/15/2011 11:10:24 AM PDT by cradle of freedom (Long live the Republic !)
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