Posted on 10/14/2011 4:33:24 PM PDT by mandaladon
Bartlett, Tenn. - Herman Cain lashed out at his critics Friday, accusing detractors of his 9-9-9 tax reform plan of trying to slow his newfound momentum with baseless attacks. During his first campaign swing since surging in the polls, Cain told a tea party crowd near his birthplace of Memphis that the plan would grow the economy by five percent at minimum, and pledged to pass it in his first 90 days in office.
Can yall see the bulls eye on my back? he joked to the crowd of several hundred supporters who had gathered in a city park here to see Cain. His critics, he said, dont know how to respond to a real solution to a problem.
Questions have mounted about Cains proposal, which would throw out the federal tax code and replace it with a nine percent flat income tax, a nine percent flat corporate tax and a nine percent national sales tax.
The name of the plan has become so synonymous with Cains upstart presidential bid that a supporter here held up a sign that read, Category 999 HURRICAIN.
Independent analysts who pored over the plan in recent days have said it would raise taxes on the poor and middle class. Fellow conservatives have warned that those nines could creep upward over time. And observers have noted that it would face an uphill battle in Congress.
Cain on Friday derided the former criticism as Washington math. He said that citizen pressure would prevent lawmakers from gradually raising the tax rate, which he called sneak-a-taxes. And the businessman said he is not afraid to promote a plan that is politically unpalatable.
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If your argument is that all taxes can rise over time and 9-9-9 doesn’t impose a constitutional limit, then 9-9-9 will rise over time. History has shown that.
Typical Perry Zombie thinking. Why bother doing anything because someone can just change it again later?
No? How long do you think it will be before that 9% for “the rich” becomes 10%, or 11%, or 12%?
He’s the first candidate (and only one) I’ve sent money to. And I’ll keep doing it as I am able. But word of mouth is working, too. I’ve told several of my friends and neighbors (one of whom doesn’t have cable) All it took was ome time listeing to him..and they are hooked! :-)
Keep spreading the word.
Listened to Herman Cain today on Fox Business News with Neil Cavuto...was so incredibly impressed, especially with his response to a question/comment dealing with his lack of foreign affairs’ experience. Cain hit it “out of the park.” I’m starting to become a believer!
The left will ALWAYS try to raise taxes, no matter what system is in place.
Sales tax increases get voted down all the time.
Yeah, like those Bush tax cuts that expired at the end of 2010. I mean, the people didn't want them to, but the politicians... um, wait. Never mind.
I tell you what, in Washington state there is hardly a problem with voters denying tax increases. This state is to the left of Lenin, but even idiot liberals know enough to vote with their wallets. Give people proper information, and they will protect themselves. The only way they don’t care about taxes going up, is when they can be sold to them as being on someone else.
It seems as though many of our fellow conservatives don’t like 999 simply out of fear of the left. If 999 were ever actually passed, it would strike a dagger into the heart of the progressive liberal movement. But instead some would rather let their fear of the left rule the day.
Just like the current tax system. So dont try to claim that this makes raising taxes harder. It wont.
And it is harder to raise the income tax, because of the compelling symmetry of the numbers suggesting balance and fairness. It’s not impossible, but it is a factor.
But raising all the three tax rates to higher numbers is certainly harder, as has been explained over and over again.
I wish Cain would spend more time on what he is going to do in that area rather than the 9-9-9 scheme.
I recall he has said: 10% across the board, and more where possible.
will be sending next week....or tomorrow...
As a conservative, I am 100% against means testing and that is pure conservatism. It is yet another redistribution scheme to collect more money from the wealthy and not pay them the promised return when they are older. That is a broken contract. Everyone who has paid in must get the promised payments back. . The mission has to be ween younger people off the system and put in place a private account system. The balance has to be handled from the general fund...much of which was already borrowed anyway over the year.
Just like the income tax started as a very small % tax on the rich. And nothing would stop them from doing it again. And nothing would keep the corporate tax rate from rising either.
....Just like the income tax started as a very small % tax on the rich. And nothing would stop them from doing it again. And nothing would keep the corporate tax rate from rising either...
What’s stopping them now? How about making the taxes more visible and on more people, making it harder to narrow down a group which can be aided or hurrt by a corrupt paid off Congress? What’s your proposal?
Period.
So, if something is bad (the 2008 stock market crash, for example), then Change, any Change, is good?
The Change doesn't have to make sense? You don't have to explain the Change? Just the fact that it is Change is all that matters?
Sorry. America has been there, done that and already has that T-Shirt.
The fact of the matter is that Cain has has been bragging that "everything is taxed only once under my 9-9-9 Plan" while totally ignoring the fact that savings in America right now have ALREADY been taxed during the Income Tax era.
Since I recently retired on my own savings, that means that I have had the honor of being taxed at 35% when I earned the money I saved and will then have the honor of being taxed AGAIN at 9% when I spend that saved money under the 9-9-9 Plan.
Is there anything in "my 9-9-9 Plan on the Internet" that even addresses ANY of the current savings in the United States of America?
No.
The "9-9-9 Plan" is so "straightforward" that it totally blows off SAVINGS.
Like another FReeper commented, "The 9-9-9 Plan looks like a plan scribbled down on a cocktail napkin after sever jiggers of Scotch."
But, move along, folks, and don't ask any questions or point out huge flaws in the Plan because it is .....
Drum roll, please .....
Change
What kind of idiot forgets about SAVINGS in America?
Or, maybe, Cain is not an "idiot" but simply a snake oil salesman that knows that shouting out "Only $9.99" attracts customers, especially when they are told not to ask too many questions.
After continuously attacking Perry while treating Romney with kid gloves, Cain, instead of fundraising like a serious candidate, is on a national book tour hawking books while the man he has repeatedly endorsed, Mitt Romney, is accumulating the war chest needed to actually mount a serious campaign.
Result: Mitt Romney will be left the GOP nomination and Cain will be left the money from book sales, speaking fees and maybe, like Palin and Huckabee, a fat FOX News contract.
Whether you realize it or not, Herman Cain sold you a "Mitt Romney Pizza" for 9.99 and you fell for the sales pitch.
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