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Grenade Walking: Catch the Fever
Human Events ^ | 10/14/2011 | John Hayward

Posted on 10/14/2011 1:59:29 PM PDT by neverdem

Back in September, I noted a Wall Street Journal piece about a gentleman named Jean Baptiste Kingery, who was walking not guns, but hand grenades across the border into Mexico. “Horrified” ATF agents were over-ridden by the U.S. Attorney’s office and forced to watch while Kingery’s pineapple express rolled out to the drug cartels, which are not at all shy about lobbing them into crowded areas.

CBS News reports the Kingery case has caught the attention of Fast and Furious investigators:

CBS News investigative correspondent Sharyl Attkisson, who has reported on this story from the beginning, said on "The Early Show" that the investigation into the Bureau of Alcohol, Tobacco, Firearms and Explosives (ATF)'s so-called "Fast and Furious" operation branches out to a case involving grenades. Sources tell her a suspect was left to traffic and manufacture them for Mexican drug cartels.

Police say Jean Baptiste Kingery, a U.S. citizen, was a veritable grenade machine. He's accused of smuggling parts for as many as 2,000 grenades into Mexico for killer drug cartels -- sometimes under the direct watch of U.S. law enforcement.

Law enforcement sources say Kingery could have been prosecuted in the U.S. twice for violating export control laws, but that, each time, prosecutors in Arizona refused to make a case.

Grenades are weapons-of-choice for the cartels. An attack on Aug. 25 in a Monterrey, Mexico casino killed 53 people.

Anyone who still maintains “gun walking,” and its more explosive “grenade walking” offshoot, were rogue ATF operations that can be firewalled from the rest of the Justice Department can stop pretending to believe that:

Sources tell CBS News that, in January 2010, ATF had Kingery under surveillance after he bought about 50 grenade bodies and headed to Mexico. But they say prosecutors wouldn't agree to make a case. So, as ATF agents looked on, Kingery and the grenade parts crossed the border -- and simply disappeared.

Six months later, Kingery allegedly got caught leaving the U.S. for Mexico with 114 disassembled grenades in a tire. One ATF agent told investigators he literally begged prosecutors to keep Kingery in custody this time, fearing he was supplying narco-terrorists, but was again ordered to let Kingery go.

Of course, everyone at the U.S. Attorney’s office involved in this fiasco has been stricken with a bad case of laryngitis, with complications ranging from reassignment to resignation.

Oh well, at least this was just one joker with a few crates full of grenade parts, right? Wrong:

Attkisson added on "The Early Show" that, in August, Mexican authorities raided Kingery's stash house and factory, finding materials for 1,000 grenades. He was charged with trafficking and allegedly admitted not only to making grenades, but also to teaching cartels how to make them, as well as helping cartel members convert semi-automatic rifles to fully-automatic. As one source put it: There's no telling how much damage Kingery did in the year-and-a-half since he was first let go. The Justice Department inspector general is now investigating this, along with "Fast and Furious."

You can see why the Mexican government is so upset by this Fast and Furious business. The Obama Administration has already done more damage to Mexico than it will ever do to Iran, and the Mexican government wasn’t even plotting to blow up embassies and restaurants.


TOPICS: Crime/Corruption; Front Page News; Mexico; Politics/Elections
KEYWORDS: atf; banglist; castaway; cia; clinton; dea; dhs; doj; fastandfurious; fbi; grenadewalking; gunrunner; gunwalker; hillary; hillaryclinton; holder; ice; obama; statedept
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1 posted on 10/14/2011 1:59:35 PM PDT by neverdem
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To: Joe Brower; Travis McGee; LucyT; vette6387; MetaThought; 60Gunner; XHogPilot; FreedomPoster; ...

And you thought you had seen the last of me today...


2 posted on 10/14/2011 2:06:23 PM PDT by MestaMachine (obama kills)
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To: neverdem

The grenade walking is most interesting because it’s a lot harder to use grenade injuries, whre the grenade explodes, leaving no trace of its origin, to undermine the 2d amendment than gunshot wounds, where the involved gun can sometimes be traced. That leaves the question of why did the Illegal also authorize grenade walking to the cartels. The only logical answer is they’ve been bribing or blackmailing him one way or another.


3 posted on 10/14/2011 2:07:07 PM PDT by libstripper
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To: neverdem

Even CBS is reporting this.

“Grenade-walking” part of “Gunwalker” scandal http://bit.ly/oA7rkC US citizen accused smuggling parts for 2,000 grenades to Mexico


4 posted on 10/14/2011 2:08:14 PM PDT by Texas Fossil (Government, even in its best state is but a necessary evil; in its worst state an intolerable one)
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To: neverdem

Anything that made the body count go up, would make the “problem” of US guns in Mexico more urgent. The media would never seperate out those kiled by guns or grenades. The worse the problem, the easier to push immediate action. After all, nobody was supposed to know about F&F in the first place.


5 posted on 10/14/2011 2:12:22 PM PDT by Hugin ("A man'll usually tell you his bad intentions if you listen and let yourself hear it"--- Open Range)
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To: neverdem

So, where is Johnny Sutton in all of this?


6 posted on 10/14/2011 2:13:17 PM PDT by Paladin2
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To: libstripper

See post #5.


7 posted on 10/14/2011 2:14:19 PM PDT by Hugin ("A man'll usually tell you his bad intentions if you listen and let yourself hear it"--- Open Range)
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To: neverdem

Remember the movie, “The Lord of War” with Nicholas Cage? It was based on the true life of Victor Bout, a man now on TRIAL for what he did.

WHY is he on trial?

The President did the same thing —I don’t get it.


8 posted on 10/14/2011 2:15:20 PM PDT by gaijin
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To: neverdem

The casino burn-down that killed 52: the FIRST thing those guys did was to throw 4 grenades, and they think they were USA grenades.

So let’s tally it, what we know so far:

1. 2,500 assault weapons, including .50 cal’s

2. 2,000 grenades

What composition was the loads that went via Castaway to MS-13? Because I’d wager that included L.A.W., and heavier stuff, too.

This is getting to be really impressive.

How many times would Nixon have been removed from office for this?


9 posted on 10/14/2011 2:18:53 PM PDT by gaijin
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To: neverdem
How Did Obama Know About "Fast and Furious" Before Holder?

0bungles knew that Holder didn't know before Holder knew that he didn't know.

And then there is this...

"Grenade-walking" part of "Gunwalker" scandal

And this...

Worse Than Gunwalker? State Dept. Allegedly Sold Guns to Zetas

Phil Jordan, a former CIA operative and one-time leader of U.S. Drug Enforcement Administration’s El Paso Intelligence Center, claims that the Obama administration is running guns to the violent Zetas cartel through the direct commercial sale of military grade weapons:

Jordan, who served as director of the U.S. Drug Enforcement Administration’s El Paso Intelligence Center in 1995, said the Zetas have shipped large amounts of weapons purchased in the Dallas area through El Paso.

(snip)

“They’ve found anti-aircraft weapons and hand grenades from the Vietnam War era,” Plumlee said. Other weapons found include grenade launchers, assault rifles, handguns and military gear including night-vision goggles and body armor.

And on top of all that...

Grassley to ask for resignation of highest-level person who signed off on Fast and Furious

10 posted on 10/14/2011 2:19:56 PM PDT by TigersEye (Life is about choices. Your choices. Make good ones.)
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To: neverdem; Travis McGee

“pineapple express”

(Good catchy phrase!)


11 posted on 10/14/2011 2:21:27 PM PDT by Atlas Sneezed (Author of BullionBible.com - Makes You a Precious Metal Expert, Guaranteed.)
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To: Hugin

Yes, grenades only make sense if they had ZERO intention of tracking anything and if the only goal was KILLING PEOPLE, the better to generate headlines for taking away US gun rights.

They knew Mexicans had access to Guatemalan grenades, and they judged that number as inadequate for the level of killing they wanted.


12 posted on 10/14/2011 2:21:49 PM PDT by gaijin
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To: neverdem
From article

..the Justice Department inspector general is now investigating this, along with "Fast and Furious."

the DOJ inspector general sounds like she is one of Holders people.

Who is Acting DOJ IG Cynthia Schendar?

13 posted on 10/14/2011 2:24:55 PM PDT by opentalk
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To: neverdem

Jean Baptiste -— dude from Canada???


14 posted on 10/14/2011 2:29:01 PM PDT by HiTech RedNeck (There's gonna be a Redneck Revolution! (See my freep page) [rednecks come in many colors])
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To: libstripper

And these were Kingery’s own handmade in USA grenades, right? Not some official producer of military grenades who could “tag” the grenades with a telltale mix of slightly radioactive compounds or chemically identifiable compounds?

Ain’t no sting going on here. Someone wanted to help the Mexican narcos. And Obama and Holder just go “DUHHHHHHH.”


15 posted on 10/14/2011 2:33:31 PM PDT by HiTech RedNeck (There's gonna be a Redneck Revolution! (See my freep page) [rednecks come in many colors])
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To: TigersEye

You gotta be shi++en me. No, nothing is past this bunch. Grenades, AA, anything.


16 posted on 10/14/2011 2:41:47 PM PDT by Travis McGee (www.EnemiesForeignAndDomestic.com)
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To: Travis McGee

What’s next. Nuke walking?


17 posted on 10/14/2011 2:43:08 PM PDT by HiTech RedNeck (There's gonna be a Redneck Revolution! (See my freep page) [rednecks come in many colors])
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To: gaijin

Agreed. Kinda hard to trace an exploded grenade. In Mexico.


18 posted on 10/14/2011 2:43:15 PM PDT by Travis McGee (www.EnemiesForeignAndDomestic.com)
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To: neverdem

This is the worst scandle in American history.

The piece of crap must be taken down by this. I suspect it went all the way to the top.


19 posted on 10/14/2011 2:43:44 PM PDT by LowTaxesEqualsProsperity
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To: HiTech RedNeck

Well, I had top fed Bob Bullard and some other bad guys trading in “research vials” of Yersinia Pestis (plague bugs) in my third novel, Foreign Enemies And Traitors.


20 posted on 10/14/2011 2:45:23 PM PDT by Travis McGee (www.EnemiesForeignAndDomestic.com)
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