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To: Bitsy

Yep and you know what?

The states and the military and now Obama, have made this bed.

There was an agenda for sure, but the door has been opened.

If you are going to say they are married, and that they can serve openly, how can you now deny benefits?


5 posted on 10/14/2011 12:21:18 PM PDT by ltc8k6
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To: ltc8k6

And everyone should have known this is how they will go after individual states on the gay marriage issue.

Because these soldiers live in states. Most that don’t recognize gay marriage. They will file lawsuits against each states’ national guards/whatever to force recognition of gay marriage if they get “married” in states that don’t care if you’re a resident or not.

THe larger issue will be now the federal govt has a pro-gay-agenda slant but many states are pro-traditional marriage, on marriage (a states rights issue) the ultimate fear/expectation is that the federal govt will usurp the issue.

When the fed govt was not pro-gay-marriage (ie staying out of it, not recognizing it), this position allowed states to determine if they’d support it or not. Once the fedgov took a pro- position on it, it now will force the states to come in line with it.


10 posted on 10/14/2011 12:36:21 PM PDT by Secret Agent Man (I'd like to tell you, but then I'd have to kill you.)
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To: ltc8k6
In 1993 I walked out of the retirement ceremony for a female O-5.

She used the occasion to harangue the assembled guests, which included three O-6s and an Admiral. By her measure, society in general and the USN in particular were great oppressors. She charged that for years she was prevented from revealing her deep love for another babe, whom she presented on stage. (Not bad looking BTW). She went on for a few more minutes before I decided I had way more than enough.

I didn't say anything, just got up and left. All eyes were on me. I was sure she would shout something to me, but she did not. That was a moment of good judgment on her part.

My blood still boils over this almost 20 years later. Gotta run now.

11 posted on 10/14/2011 12:38:24 PM PDT by Jacquerie
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