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Does Anyone Have a Grip on the G.O.P.? (Establishment loves Government,Cronyism and hates Tea Party)
NYT ^ | Thursday October 13, 2011 | Matt Bai

Posted on 10/13/2011 10:53:53 AM PDT by Bigtigermike

Establishment Republicans may prefer Romney to Perry, but their assumption is that either man can be counted on to steer the party back toward the broad center next fall, effectively disarming the Tea Party mutiny.

If that’s the case, then it now seems like only a matter of time before the Republican empire, overwhelmed by insurrection for much of the last two years, strikes back at last. “I think it’s waning now,” Scott Reed, a veteran strategist and lobbyist, told me when we talked about the Tea Party’s influence last month

Party leaders have managed to bleed some of the anti-establishment intensity out of the movement, Reed said, by slyly embracing Tea Party sympathizers in Congress, rather than treating them as “those people.”

Did he mean to say that the party was slowly co-opting the Tea Partiers?

“Trying to,” Reed said. “And that’s the secret to politics: trying to control a segment of people without those people recognizing that you’re trying to control them.”

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Longtime Republicans have been satisfied enough to have their candidates run down activist government as a campaign tactic, even as they themselves retained a more nuanced view of the federal government’s role (which is why a Republican Congress, working with a Republican president, managed to pass a Medicare prescription-drug bill in 2003). But when you talk to them now, these same Republicans seem positively baffled that anyone could have actually internalized, so literally, all the scorching resentment for government that has come to define the modern conservative campaign.

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but it also puts the caucus in direct conflict with establishment Republicans like Vin Weber, who are inclined to protect some of those discretionary programs — because they actually believe the programs have merit or because some company is paying them to preserve the status quo.

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TOPICS: Front Page News; News/Current Events; Politics/Elections
KEYWORDS: establishment; republican; rino; vinweber; weber
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To: Bigtigermike

The establishment of either party can KMA!


21 posted on 10/13/2011 1:43:20 PM PDT by CSM (Keeper of the "Dave Ramsey Fan" ping list. FReepmail me if you want your beeber stuned.)
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To: bamahead

waaaaaaa


22 posted on 10/13/2011 3:40:21 PM PDT by traviskicks (http://www.neoperspectives.com/Ron_Paul_2008.htm)
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To: Bigtigermike

the republicans have been a party that advocates for a large

federal government and large spending,

since their inception at the civil war.

it was and still is the country club and council on foreign relations.

conservatism is a relatively recent development:

william buckley, ronald reagan, milton friedman, hayek, von mises, and aspects of ayn rand.

as rush says, in order for conservatism to win, we’ll have to take over the republican party.


23 posted on 10/13/2011 5:11:03 PM PDT by ken21
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To: bamahead; Joe 6-pack; decal; Charles Henrickson; LibertarianInExile
WHAT DO YOU GET WHEN YOU CROSS AN ELEPHANT WITH A RHINOCEROS?

ELLEFINO!
('Ell if I know)

24 posted on 10/13/2011 5:48:03 PM PDT by FreeKeys ("The Constitution was written to keep the government off the people's backs."- JudgeAndrewNapolitano)
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To: FreeKeys

LOL!!!


25 posted on 10/13/2011 6:36:10 PM PDT by bamahead (Few men desire liberty; most men wish only for a just master. -- Sallust)
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To: Bigtigermike

Just like the socialists have infiltrated and taken over the Democrat party, The Tea Party (real conservatives) need to infiltrate the Republican party and take it over. This is what the establishment RINOS are afraid of. They don’t want to lose their power and influence.


26 posted on 10/13/2011 6:59:16 PM PDT by A. Patriot (Have we lost our Republic? Do the majority of Americans care?)
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To: bamahead

GOP = “ Got Our Pension “


27 posted on 10/14/2011 4:56:42 AM PDT by stephenjohnbanker (God, family, country, mom, apple pie, the girl next door and a Ford F250 to pull my boat.)
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To: bobk333

Hate to break it to you, Bob but the Rick Perry machine has already co- opted the Tea Party movement here in Texas. The State Tea Party Express, as they are called, now has a tv ad playing extolling the virtues of Perry and Scott Walker, his peer from Wisconsin. It’s a Perry campaign ad thinly disguised as a Tea Party movement with Walker along for the ride as camouflage. I’m surprised they didn’t wrap Rick up in the Gadsden Flag.


28 posted on 10/14/2011 5:13:37 AM PDT by TADSLOS (Rick Perry engages in corporate welfare via Texas TEF/ETF)
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To: jakerobins

Time for term limits. 5 terms in the house, 2 in the Senate.


29 posted on 10/14/2011 5:45:54 PM PDT by HapaxLegamenon
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