Posted on 10/12/2011 4:14:52 PM PDT by Meet the New Boss
Fueled by Tea Party supporters, conservatives and high-interest GOP primary voters, former Godfather’s Pizza CEO Herman Cain now leads the race for the Republican presidential nomination, according to the latest NBC News/Wall Street Journal poll.
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Cain checks in as the first choice of 27 percent of Republican voters in the poll, followed by former Massachusetts Gov. Mitt Romney at 23 percent and Perry at 16 percent. After those three, it’s Texas Rep. Ron Paul at 11 percent, former House Speaker Newt Gingrich at 8 percent, Bachmann at 5 percent and former Utah Gov. Jon Huntsman at 3 percent.
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Man, I would love to re-read all the Civil War threads from years past. I've definitely evolved philosophically over the years, in large part from all the debating and discussion here. Back in those days, I was a Madisonian. Now I'm quite the opposite. More of a Patrick Henry kind of a guy.
Is there a quick way to get back to the first posts? How do you do that? I'd like to see them. It'd be like reading a diary or something. My early libertarian days. etc.
Which is why I was disappointed to see some of the GOP candidates make Dem-like childish jokes about Cain’s 9-9-9 plan.
I don’t want the MSM to pick our candidate again like they did in 1996 and in 2008, and tried to steal the election in 2000
It isn’t pretty words. Grow a pair and kick our government to the curb. Get somebody that can keep and preserve our Constitution to the best of their ability. That’s your ticket.
I have posts from 9-11. Oh man. I'd love to read my stuff from Elian Gonzalez. I bet those posts would remind you of the way I am right now re: sales tax.
I think you have confused Barrack Obama with Herman Cain.
After watching the debate and reading a lot of the posts about it, I have come to the conclusion that there is a whole group of people that don’t fit into either the TEA Party or the Occupy Wall Street group, so I’m starting my own special interest group. I’m calling it:
RINOS and DEMOCRATS for ROMNEY!
Which is why I was disappointed to see some of the GOP candidates make Dem-like childish jokes about Cain’s 9-9-9 plan.I don’t want the MSM to pick our candidate again like they did in 1996 and in 2008, and tried to steal the election in 2000
Yes, and they are attacking the conservatives yet sparing Romney the establishment's whore.
Romney has betrayed the life of the child, the sanctitiy of marriage, the sane high ground in the climate hoax, the freedom of the citizen in gun control and health care mandates, and on and on and on.
Each of the conservatives: Santorum, Cain, Bachmann, Gingrich and Perry have issues on which arguments may be raised.
Palin having recused, the field is likely closed.
In my view Romney must be excluded; a conservative must be nominated and defeat Obama.
The contest reveals character, and cheap shot attacks create blow-back.
Cain publicly opposed the 1993/1994 health care plan of President Bill Clinton. As president-elect of the National Restaurant Association, he challenged Bill Clinton on the costs of the employer mandate contained within the bill and criticized its effect on small businesses. Bob Cohn of Newsweek described Cain as one of the primary opponents of the plan:
The Clintons would later blame “Harry and Louise,” the fictional couple in the ads aired by the insurance industry, for undermining health reform. But the real saboteurs are named Herman and John.
Herman Cain is the president of Godfather’s Pizza and president-elect of the National Restaurant Association. An articulate entrepreneur, Cain transformed the debate when he challenged Clinton at a town meeting in Kansas City, Mo.. Cain asked the president what he was supposed to say to the workers he would have to lay off because of the cost of the “employer mandate.” Clinton responded that there would be plenty of subsidies for small businessmen, but Cain persisted. “Quite honestly, your calculation is inaccurate,” he told the president. “In the competitive marketplace it simply doesn’t work that way.”
Yeah, I think Cain knows a thing or two about how the economy and how business works.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Herman_Cain#Role_in_the_defeat_of_the_Clinton_health_care_plan
Cain publicly opposed the 1993/1994 health care plan of President Bill Clinton. As president-elect of the National Restaurant Association, he challenged Bill Clinton on the costs of the employer mandate contained within the bill and criticized its effect on small businesses. Bob Cohn of Newsweek described Cain as one of the primary opponents of the plan:
The Clintons would later blame “Harry and Louise,” the fictional couple in the ads aired by the insurance industry, for undermining health reform. But the real saboteurs are named Herman and John.
Herman Cain is the president of Godfather’s Pizza and president-elect of the National Restaurant Association. An articulate entrepreneur, Cain transformed the debate when he challenged Clinton at a town meeting in Kansas City, Mo.. Cain asked the president what he was supposed to say to the workers he would have to lay off because of the cost of the “employer mandate.” Clinton responded that there would be plenty of subsidies for small businessmen, but Cain persisted. “Quite honestly, your calculation is inaccurate,” he told the president. “In the competitive marketplace it simply doesn’t work that way.”
Yeah, I think Cain knows a thing or two about how the economy and how business works.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Herman_Cain#Role_in_the_defeat_of_the_Clinton_health_care_plan
Just click on your Account tab and then go to My Comments. Then keep clicking next on the bottom of the page. It really does not take very long to get through them. Sometimes not everything is there, a lot of times the original article is gone, sometimes the whole thread is missing depending on how long ago you are going back.
I know what you mean about going on the war path; the same thing happens to many of us. I get fired up fairly easily. I end up making quite a few apologies here after heated exchanges. I hope that none of my posts were too hurtful to you. My wife and I are history buffs as well. Please have a good evening.
The “Big Money” is waiting. So is all of the “Small Money”. The Caucuses will tell the tale.
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/595243/posts?q=1&;page=51
Here's a thread where Freepers were freeping a poll. The freepers were in FAVOR of a "stimulus" bill. I, being my usual self, went against the tide:
Much as I'd love to dis Daschle, the more I read about this "stimulus", the gladder I am its dead. What the hell has the world come to when we are giving "tax rebates" to people who didn't pay taxes? Can we please call them what they are? They are handouts. The Congress--both sides of the aisle--apparantly was willing to give some spending money to the po' folks. To stimulate the economy. Yucko. Then there is this matter of health care. Both sides were willing to subsidize health care. The GOP subsidy would basically only help folks who don't need help, and the Dems would help the po' folks. But what the hell does any of that have to do with stimulus?True, there were some tax cuts that affected actual taxpayers. Corporate taxes. Which is fine, I guess, but were they really growth-promoting taxes? And anyway, isn't the whole "stimulus" idea a little too Keynsian? There are plenty of reasons for a tax cut that don't require a recession.
I would give the GOP the benefit of the doubt and say they know best how to strategize, they must have some poll numbers, except that apparantly no one really gives a rat's fanny about this bill. YOu know what I say? Good riddance to bad rubbish. BOTH parties were wasting our time and money playing politics. Wonder what the Congress's rating is compared to the President, or even the press. Anyone care to wager which is dead last?
The President postured on this one. He is trying to help the party win seats. I am all for that. Anything to get Daschle out of power. Anything, that is, except saying they should have passed that crappy so-called stimulus bill. But hey, that' s just my opinion, I could be wrong.
That was me 10 years ago, doing much the same as I am doing now. Speaking my mind regardless of what the herd thinks.
I've screwed up enough times to become an expert in apologizing. Hey, no hard feelings. You're wrong about me, though. I am still the same Huck. I'm just a little pissed off right now. And I do love liberty. I am sure I had a hand in giving the wrong impression.
Yes, I used to spend HOURS here just on history threads--civil war, constitutional law, founding period. I learned a lot. I'd pour through books and come and post and argue.
I'm grumpier and less polite than I used to be. Maybe I'll try to make an adjustment. Anyway, no hard feelings. Take care,
Huck
Posted on Thursday, June 10, 2004 11:36:35 AM by Huck
I want to identify a basketful of good, solid, reliable charities to start getting on a regular giving basis. The passing of Ronaldus Magnus has inspired me to try to improve my giving, which is actually pitiful.
I suppose the areas I would be most inclined towards would be diseases, especially those that affect young people, like leukemia or cancer. I suppose charities that help the kids whose daddies have died in combat also are of interest to me. Maybe something that helps preserve our history or our national parks or something.
Can you help? Thanks.
I am afraid that a Romney win will start a third party candidacy. I think that conservatives could accept any of the other candidates over Obama, but not Romney.
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Note, in the more RECENT polls, Cain is MUCH closer.
These charts show there are now fewer 'undecided's, since 4.7% of those questioned have gotten 'off the fence' in October.
Romney gained almost one point, while Cain has gained SIX.
Other candidates mostly lost small amounts, with Perry and Santorum's losses possibly being the most significant.
I then noticed the Gallup data was several days older than the four polls after it, so I moved Gallup into the "older data", and voila, Romney and Cain were then TIED! ...
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Excellent work. Please keep me apprised of any future calculations you make.
So.. Huck.. who has a better plan in your opinion?
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From 41% in August to 13% in October. Gary Hart would be proud.
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