NBC/WSJ poll: Cain now leads GOP pack (Cain 27% Romney 23% Perry 16%)

NBC News ^ | 12 Oct 2011 | Mark Murray

[Huck]

Then you don’t know what the Fair Tax is. It’s been around for over a decade. It’s well known. And it’s on Cain’s website as Phase 2. Re-taxing everyone’s savings at 33%. Real conservative.

[UnwashedPeasant]

Here are the most recent polls on RealClearPolitics.com:

Poll	Date	Sample	Romney	Cain	Perry	Spread
NBC News/Wall St. Jrnl	10/6 - 10/10	336 registered voters	23	27	16	Cain +4
Reuters/Ipsos	10/6 - 10/10	410 adults	23	19	10	Romney +4
PPP (D)	10/7 - 10/10	484 likely voters	22	30	14	Cain +8
WP/Bloomberg/PSRAI	10/6 - 10/9	391 adults	24	16	13	Romney +8

Cain does best among registered voters and, especially, among likely voters.

[Huck]

I’m talking about executives in republican government. Not franchisers.

[Antoninus]

Sweet! Go Herman!

[Huck]

Everyone pays the same percent in income tax - no exceptions.

Yeah, I think everyone should pay the same rate, which won't happen under the Fair Tax, because we don't all spend the same % of our income, for reasons of necessity.

Newt's got an interesting idea in his plan, where you can choose to pay either under the current system, or you can elect to pay a flat tax, I think it's 15% but I forget, no deductions. Ok, easy enough. you do the math and see which one comes out the best.

[fireman15]

Huck, you don't love liberty. You efforts are helping to ensure that Obama gets a second term. You support tyranny. You support anarchy. You belong with the Occupy Wall Street crowd. This is obvious to anyone who takes the time to go through your posting history. You have nothing to offer here. You are nothing but a bitter, destructive bully who is intentionally helping the other side.

[ilovesarah2012]

I was only talking about income tax - not sales tax.

[Huck]

I understood that. I wasn't clear. My bad. I was just making the point that flat income is fairer than flat sales.

By the way, to deal with all the Buffett rule nonsense, why not treat all earnings as income? I love my cap gains and dividends, but why not just throw all earnings in the same pile, tax it at one rate?

[Huck]

You’re tedious and boring. Please go away from me.

[PhilDragoo]

I was very excited about President Reagan before he was a front runner. I see a lot of the same optimism, charisma and folksy wisdom in Mr. Cain. He is a self-made man who has risen to the top. He achieved his dreams. He is a shining example for others, especially those who have lost their confidence in the United States of America. He is not a power hungry fool like Obama.

You would be interested to see Sam Waterson's story of being so angry at the Moyers ad against Barry Goldwater which depicted the little girl plucking the daisy that Waterson voted for Barry Goldwater.

I was proud to go to New York in the summer of 1964 with Young Americans for Freedom to draft Goldwater.

The level of attacks against the conservative candidate so eloquently endorsed by Ronald Reagan in "A Time for Choosing" are with us unto this day.

This isn't 1964, nor 1995.

We witnessed 2010 ripping six watertight compartments out of the Democrat lock on power and Obama has aided its descent.

It will be a proud day when we retake the Senate and elect a conservative president proud as we are of our shining city on the hill.

[Arizona Carolyn]

These posters scare the heck out of me, where is the actual thinking rather than jump on a slogan bandwagon..... this 999 plan is a disaster, and listening to Cain last night not all that well thought out other than running it past some accountant at Wells Fargo Bank.. sheesh.... all I can hope is people get a clue and fast...

[Huck]

Sign of the times. Sadly, we’re gonna get what we deserve.

[ExSoldier]

I was listening to O'Reilley (sp?) tonight on FOX radio and he and some other pundit bozo were bloviating about how Romney already has the nomination all sewed up and yada yada yada. Says the nomination process will be OVER by February 2012. What a pair of maroons.

[Huck]

I recommend Rio Bravo

http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0053221/

When you need to escape the realities of the day, and be transported to a simple place where good triumphs, and old fashioned virtues mean something, you can’t go wrong with the Duke. Have a drink, if you smoke, spark up a stogey, and let your anxiety float out the window.

[Netizen]

Where are you guys coming from? DU? HuffPo??

Maybe they are from FR, just incognito. (second account)

[Fred]

30% sales tax on what I buy????

Dang where do you freepers live and or shop? Ever heard of buying on the internet or driving a few miles to a state that has lower sales taxes....get pro active y’all.

I always check sales taxes on every purchase I make, nicking 2% on big ticket items makes a positive difference.

Example, if in Chicago, drive north, cross the border to WI and pay far less sales tax...etc..etc...etc...

[Huck]

A lot of these people no doubt were early supporters of Trump’s ridiculous foray into GOP politics. Rubes. It’s open season on them.

[Netizen]

He also doesn’t have the moral character. Divorcing your wife while she’s being treated for cancer doesn’t play real well on Main Street. And like it or not, those are the folks who vote.

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I was 13 years old, and we were about to leave Fairfax, Va., and drive to Carrollton, Ga., for the summer. My parents told my sister and me that they were getting a divorce as our family of four sat around the kitchen table of our ranch home. Soon afterward, my mom, sister and I got into our light-blue Chevrolet Impala and drove back to Carrollton.

Later that summer, Mom went to Emory University Hospital in Atlanta for surgery to remove a tumor. While she was there, Dad took my sister and me to see her.

It is this visit that has turned into the infamous hospital visit about which many untruths have been told. I won’t repeat them. You can look them up online if you are interested in untruths. But here’s what happened:

My mother and father were already in the process of getting a divorce, which she requested.

Dad took my sister and me to the hospital to see our mother.

She had undergone surgery the day before to remove a tumor.

The tumor was benign.

As with many divorces, it was hard and painful for all involved, but life continued.

As have many families, we have healed; we have moved on.

We are not a perfect family, but we are knit together through common bonds, commitment and love.

My mother and father are alive and well, and my sister and I are blessed to have a close relationship with them both.

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/2719860/posts

[Huck]

So your argument for the Fair Tax is to avoid it? And here I was told by ardent Fair Tax supporters that one of its benefits is that it catches avoiders! Funny. It’s sort of like the Cain supporters who reassure me that his 9-9-9 plan will never pass. So why support him?

[Marie]

I hear you.

My mom raised me through my teen years as a single mom. She never took a dime of charity.

Know what she did when we didn’t have enough money to get by?

She got another job. Most of the time she had three. She took up making wedding and other special occasion cakes on the side to bring in a few more dollars.

My mom *hustled* to feed, shelter and clothe me.

She never allowed someone else to be responsible for her duty as a parent to her child.

Even if that meant living in someone’s basement or out of our car for a few months.

Again - she never asked for or expected ANYONE else to step up and fill the gaps.