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Live from New Hampshire: GOP Debate
Townhall.com ^ | October 11, 2011 | Guy Benson

Posted on 10/11/2011 3:18:34 PM PDT by Kaslin

Greetings from the picturesque campus of the Ivy League's Dartmouth College, the site of tonight's Republican presidential tilt.  The Tipsheet will have live coverage of the event, which kicks off at 8:00 pm ET and airs on Bloomberg television (time to break out the TV guide, I suspect).  Before you read my take on what to watch for tonight, check out the latest poll from Gallup, which puts the three top-tier candidates within five points of eachother.


Storylines


(1) Iran: Although the debate is supposed to focus almost exclusively on economic issues, today's breaking news bombshell that the Iranian government has been caught financing and coordinating terrorist attacks against targets inside the United States should absolutely be addressed.  The candidate with the most granular understanding of the issues at play on this subject is Rick Santorum. I'm eager to hear what he, and all of his rivals, have to say.  (Except for Ron Paul, who doesn't think Iranian nuclear aggression is a biggie, and who will find some way to blame us for Iran's poisonous treachery).  Another wrinkle: Could Eric Holder's involvement in this story provide an opening for someone to finally raise Solyndra and/or Fast & Furious in one of these debates? 

(2) Chris Christie's endorsement of Mitt Romney will likely get some play.  Will Rick Perry -- or someone else -- pull the Northeastern RINO card?  A Perry spokesman has already come pretty close

(3) Mormonism: Rick Perry was recently introduced at an event by a pastor who has called Mormonism a "cult."  Today, Mitt Romney demanded that Perry repudiate this view, arguing that the Consitution forbids a religious test for the presidency, and that anti-Mormon bigotry is ugly and has no place in American politics.  A Perry spokesman has already declined to acede Romney's request, calling the issue a "distraction."  I'll be stunned if this kerfuffle doesn't spill over into the debate, and Rick Perry had better be prepared with a damn good answer.

(4) Occupy Wall Street questions are almost inevitable.  The base cannot stand the mob of hippies, communists, anti-capitalists, and sundry lefty hangers-on who comprise the bulk of the "movement."  Organized labor and the Democrat Party establishment are getting on board, too.  He (or she) with the best Occupy Wall Street-related zinger might win one of the biggest headlines tomorrow.


Candidates


Mitt Romney - The former Massachusetts Governor is in his own backyard, leading in the polls, and feeiling buoyed by the Christie "get."  Deep down, he knows that Rush is right:  Absent a tactonic shift in the race, Mitt will be the Republican nominee.  His goal is to keep things moving on the current trajectory.  It will be interesting to see if anyone besides Rick Perry will try to jolt Romney out of cruise control.

Herman Cain - With first-tier status comes first-tier scrutiny (and first-tier stage positioning).  Expect more exploration of Cain's 9-9-9 tax plan, which I called for in an earlier post.  It's been fascinating to watch the Romney-Cain partnership develop over the last few debates.  Neither one has anything bad to say about the other, with Rick Perry hardest hit.  At some point, if Cain is going to win this thing, he's going to have to attack his ally.  Will that first salvo come tonight?

Rick Perry - The guy is still raking in major bucks and has never lost a campaign in his life.  Reports of Perry's demise are -- for now -- premature, but the comeback train has to leave the station soon.  Perry's campaign unleashed a brutal attack ad against Romneycare this week.  Almost on cue (arguably, directly on cue), the White House has leaked the story that several top Romney healthcare advisors were actively involved in crafting Obamacare.  If ever there were a time to really tee off on the frontrunner, tonight would be the night.  Perry's probably got the most to gain, and he seems to enjoy mixing it up, so he'll likely lead the charge.  But will be be able to pull it off succinctly and convincingly, unlike his slow-motion trainwreck in Orlando?  The good news: Perry's son says his dad will be "well-rested" this time.

Newt Gingrich - I briefly heard Newt compare Occupy Wall Street to the Tea Party movement on a local radio show this morning.  I wonder what he means by that, and whether he's read Ann Coulter's column on the subject.

Rick Santorum - The former Senator's expertise and greatest appeal to primary voters lie in the realms of foreign affairs and social issues.  Does this mean he'll he flounder in an economic debate?  Not at all, but he may feel less relevant.

Jon Huntsman - He needs a strong showing in New Hampshire to justify the continuation of his campaign, so Romney's the guy to beat.  But some anti-Mormon rhetoric has seeped into this race over the last few days, and Huntsman might join forces with Romney to beat it back.

Michele Bachmann - One of her previous high water marks came here in the Granite State, when she made a stellar debate debut in June.  She'll try to recapture the magic tonight.

Ron Paul - The retiring Texas Representative says many of his "extreme" views of three years ago have been vindicated by intervening events, and have now gained broader credibility and acceptance.  He'll have another chance to explain why tonight.


Tonight's debate is being co-sponsored by Bloomberg, the Washington Post, and a local television station.  Between Romneycare, Mormonism, and the "Occupy" mob, there could be major fireworks on tap.  Tune in, and follow our live chat here at Townhall.


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1,341 posted on 10/11/2011 7:02:39 PM PDT by Reily
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To: rightwingintelligentsia

I prefer “Crazy Eyes” to “Fat Arse!”


1,342 posted on 10/11/2011 7:02:57 PM PDT by MagUSNRET
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To: DRey

You’d support Perry if he rode into the debate on a cow, while swing a dead chicken over his head.


1,343 posted on 10/11/2011 7:03:07 PM PDT by dragnet2 (Diversion and evasion are tools of deceit)
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To: advertising guy

The questioners and commentators were the real losers tonight.


1,344 posted on 10/11/2011 7:03:24 PM PDT by World'sGoneInsane (You can keep repeating it, but it does not make it true. It only makes it propaganda.)
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To: Reeses
Perry is a great man but he is slow. He can’t win this.

Reminds me of the story of the tortoise and the hare. Wouldn't discount him too quickly. I think Cain hurt himself the most tonight.

1,345 posted on 10/11/2011 7:03:24 PM PDT by alicewonders
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To: samtheman
John Kerry was in Vietnam -- really?

:-)

1,346 posted on 10/11/2011 7:03:24 PM PDT by South40 (Reject the pro-ILLEGAL candidate. Vote conservative -- vote for Herman Cain!)
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To: magritte
That was on purpose...his often repeated line is that he was po’ before he was poor (pronounced correctly) - meaning that being po’ is worse than being poor. You must have missed the last part of his sentence. Don't worry, you will hear it again.
1,347 posted on 10/11/2011 7:03:46 PM PDT by Dave W
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To: Bushbacker1

Again, it may not be what we’ve been led to believe. http://theiowarepublican.com/2011/kevin%e2%80%99s-korner-the-truth-about-newt-nein-nein-nein-and-titanium-spines/


1,348 posted on 10/11/2011 7:03:50 PM PDT by Conservativegreatgrandma
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To: DRey

I really hope that the Republican primaries voters would wake up to the ugly reality of this Romney/Cain team before it is too late.


1,349 posted on 10/11/2011 7:03:53 PM PDT by jgge
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To: txmissy

Yep, and definitely higher speaker and appearance fees as a result of sitting at that table.

Let’s not forget, our every effort needs to be behind getting one of those candidates elected next November. Any one of them is infinitely better than what we have now.


1,350 posted on 10/11/2011 7:04:00 PM PDT by bigbob
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To: Longbow1969

Exactly!!! Michelle is not Sarah and can never be Sarah and she comes across so phony!


1,351 posted on 10/11/2011 7:04:22 PM PDT by Repub4bush (GOPbriefingroom.com)
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To: GOPsterinMA

I wish Perry would have went for Romney’s throat on the ‘all our kids have insurance’ line. Yeah, because MA ramrodded it onto it’s citizens just like Zerocare. Perry needs to point out that when Romney had chance to do something he chose the Zero route, and how can we trust him to take the free market route in the future?


1,352 posted on 10/11/2011 7:04:25 PM PDT by Free Vulcan (Vote Republican! You can vote Democrat when you're dead.)
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To: Longbow1969

Exactly!!! Michelle is not Sarah and can never be Sarah and she comes across so phony!


1,353 posted on 10/11/2011 7:04:37 PM PDT by Repub4bush (GOPbriefingroom.com)
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To: mylife

“When he got put in a corner he just yells Nine Nine Nine!”

yeah reminds me of Steve Forbes all over again.


1,354 posted on 10/11/2011 7:04:43 PM PDT by ari-freedom ("Perry: good governor. Romney: Good hair."-Herman Cain)
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To: Kaslin

Well, I’m still trying to find my candidate. I still like Perry, but he needs to up his game. He should be blowing Romney out the water, but he’s not getting off many good shots. I learned more about Cain. I thought he did very well under attack. So far I’m satisfied with his 9-9-9 plan. I learned he supported the bailout which I don’t like. And he wants an Alan Greenspan clone for Fed Chairman? Ugh! Greenspan, as Ron Paul says, was a disaster. So I’m not sold on Cain.

I keep looking back to Gingrich. If there’s one guy up there who probably knows the right thing to do, it’s Gingrich. I’m just trying to forgive him for his stupid pro-global warming statements......


1,355 posted on 10/11/2011 7:04:43 PM PDT by Big E
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To: mylife

“I Like Herman, but he showed cracks in the armor tonight.
When he got put in a corner he just yells Nine Nine Nine!”

Ditto. I was hoping I could get behind him, but he did nothing tonight to impress me. I think 9-9-9 is BS-BS-BS, and he had no other talking points to focus on.

Newt blew everyone else away, but he’s 100% unelectable (and I think he knows it).

Romney didn’t stumble. The media will 100% declare him the presumptive candidate, along with the GOP establishment.

GOOD GRIEF, IT’S BEEN *** TWENTY FOUR *** YEARS SINCE I’VE HAD A PRESIDENT I COULD REALLY SUPPORT! This is awful.


1,356 posted on 10/11/2011 7:04:43 PM PDT by Pravious
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To: magritte

I’m a native southerner, it’s not that. He wasn’t tired earlier, he was full of energy in his early answers. But that last answer looked like he was ready for the mint on his pillow.


1,357 posted on 10/11/2011 7:04:54 PM PDT by Meet the New Boss
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To: netmilsmom

Thank you, much appreciate your comment.


1,358 posted on 10/11/2011 7:05:02 PM PDT by federal__reserve (November 2012 will decide whether we fall into an abyss or walk up the shiny city on the hill.)
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To: Kaslin
Objective analysis...
No one embarrassed themselves and I think Charlie Rose was pleasantly inebriated. Romney stood out. Cain wilted a bit in the spotlight. Bachmann and Perry stepped it up a bit. Santorum and Newt were strong in their limited cameos. Huntsman still lingers and Ron Paul was himself. It was actually a decent discussion, but I want the next debate to take on other issues outside of economics. This group overall finally started to trash Obama more, and calling for incarceration of Frank and Dodd was long overdue and excellent.
1,359 posted on 10/11/2011 7:05:02 PM PDT by Shqipo (I am AttackWatch parolee #1,237. I am breaking my parole once more.)
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To: Toespi; RitaOK; abigailsmybaby
You stated it very succinctly and with precision!

You're spot on. At this point in time, I don't give a rat's a*s if he's had 15 wives, we need a leader who can speak, articulate his/herself and put “it” out there for the people to see.

1,360 posted on 10/11/2011 7:05:20 PM PDT by GOPsterinMA (Be careful for what you wish for and choose wisely.)
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