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To: savagesusie

Well, I really have no problem with Mormons as long as they aren’t pushing it in my face. They are not like Jehovah’s Witnesses I believe.

I think we have to keep religious issues seperate from political ones, and on political ones I have SERIOUS concerns with Romney and Obamacare, the Second Amendment, ties with globalists, etc. I think he’s a RINO.

I feel exactly as you do about Kraphammer. I formerly liked him, but realize now he has a RINO agenda. Fiscal responsibility and middle eastern stability appear to be his sole issues. And his constant pandering to Romney, as well that of his colleagues and fellow FOX people is becoming quite annoying.

We DON’T need another George Bush II in the White House with his nation-building and “Compassionate” conservativism.
We need someone to rectify the grievious damage wrought by Bush I, Clinton, Bush II and Obama. And frankly, Romney doesn’t fit the bill. Cain does, so perhaps does Perry. Bachmann certainly, but she has tanked.


57 posted on 10/11/2011 6:16:06 AM PDT by ZULU (DUMP Obama in 2012)
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To: ZULU

I agree with you on all but this:

Separation of State and Church was on Stalin’s platform and we HAVE to dump it. Religion (even atheism) has to be a part of the political worldview...if you compartmentalize human beings—take “religion” out of the worldview...you reduce them to animals and atheists....which makes a “civil” society impossible.

That is where we erred as a nation-—Separation cr*p in 1954 from the Communists, the policies of the Soviet Union and China. No freedom of speech and thought in the public square forces Atheism or Secular Humanism. Religious thought can NOT be constitutionally eliminated or silenced by government.

I am not saying “establish” a religion—I am saying “recognize” religions in the public square—exactly like we used to do until 1954.

We have to recognize God, because that is where our Natural Rights are derived from and it is His standards that all laws are based on-—those that are “Just Law”. (Barney Frank laws are unjust according to our Constitution if not based on God’s standard of Right and Wrong).

We should recognize all religions that accept “God”—not Wiccan ones or Satanic ones....those are antithetical to our Philosophy of the US Constitution. Those people are “free” to think their weird thoughts but not free to have special priviledge granted to them, especially in the military. They will not be able to take oaths-—for jury duty, like in the Founding days....because they can not swear to God-given rights which is the philosophy of our legal system. They are free to believe, but there philosophy is incompatible with our legal system, and will have to be excluded from things where there is a requirement for a belief in God for oaths, etc.

After the Marxist’s insanity—we started to embrace ANYTHING that people “claimed” were religions...like Wicca.....but these things can not be defined as legitimate religions because of the philosophy of the US. We used to have a standard....Communists destroyed that and now we get unjust—unconstitutional laws like homosexual marriage...etc. and any rediculous belief system and stamp it a legitimate “religion”. That’s nonsense if you are a rational government. We are not designed to be a “tribe”.

Right Reason according to Nature. Logic and Reason and Science and Faith......the combo that is inline with Natural Law Theory recognizes the Judeo-Christian bible and Deism as the basis of rational religions in this country. Ben Franklin—defined what could be recognized in valid religions—and God and do unto ALL others were the guiding principles along with the ten commandments. It is why polygamy was illegal. (and should be because it gives more worth to men than women, especially in procreation. It is unjust).


59 posted on 10/11/2011 3:11:03 PM PDT by savagesusie
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