Posted on 10/10/2011 8:10:08 AM PDT by SeekAndFind
Let's just get it out of the way and all recite the mantra at once, shall we?
Straw polls don't mean anything.
But for those who still like to follow them, we had yet another this weekend in Minnesota at the Midwestern Leadership Conference. And once again Herman Cain mopped up the competition, this time registering the largest margin of victory yet, bringing home more than half the votes.
Former Godfather’s Pizza CEO Herman Cain rounded out a very good week with a straw poll victory at the Midwest Leadership Conference in Minnesota on Saturday.
Cain pulled off a decisive win, garnering 52.6 percent of the vote and beating Minnesota Rep. Michele Bachmann in her own backyard. Bachmann took a distant second place with 12.2 percent of the vote, followed by former Massachusetts Gov. Mitt Romney with 11.1 percent. Texas Rep. Ron Paul attracted 10.7 percent of the vote while Texas Gov. Rick Perry got just 4 percent.
Cain’s numbers are stunning to be sure, but what is probably the saddest footnote of this event is the fact that Bachmann barely broke out of single digits in her own home state. That campaign may not be officially dead, but they’ve got a priest on standby with a copy of the last rites.
Also, following the Values Voter Summit, this is two back-to-back outings where Rick Perry – who was briefly the newly crowned king of the pack – sank below the background noise level. (Though sitting on $15M in donations can salve a lot of wounds.) Mitt didn’t do much better than that, though he at least managed to edge out Ron Paul for once.
There will be singing and dancing in Cain-Town this week to be sure. No matter what you think of straw polls, headlines which include words like “winning” are always good news for a candidate seeking to expand their name recognition and drive donors to pry open their wallets. Cain has been racking up one impressive showing after another lately, and talk about Herminator Momentum is getting harder and harder to treat like a joke.
Some talk of flavor of the month, but there is a difference between Perry and Cain. Perry’s rise was before he was seen in debates and Cain’s was after he was seen in debates.
I wonder if Romney will go after Cain at tomorrow’s night debate like he went after Perry? I doubt it as they know Cain is quick on his feet.
He got in trouble for moats and alligators comments earlier in the campaign. Yes, he has made statements.
Romney won’t bother with Cain. In politics, you don’t ever shoot down. It will be another Romney/Perry slugfest, with Perry on offense and the other candidates watching.
Cain’s position on illegal immigration is the same as Perry and Romney. Secure the border. Enforce current law.
Exactly! And supporting Romney is taking Obama Care issue off of the table since Obama Care was modeled after Romney Care.
Romney = McCain 2.... So if you do not want Obama elected another 4 years, then do not vote for Romney.
Perry can’t debate for a long time and Romney takes the Health care issue off the table.
Sorry but it’s Cain all the way.
ONE more thing.... Obama can’t play the race card with Herman Cain.
I’m likely to vote for Cain in the primary, and I may even vote for him in the general, whether or not he gets the nomination (I’ll write him in rather than voting for Romney), but I’m not convinced he’ll be a great president. He has my support because he is a good man with normal values, and I believe he won’t be a terrible president, which is a HUGE step up from the drug-addled thug currently occupying our White House. Perhaps we could do better, but “better” isn’t running. I’ll take the best that we can get.
It's even conceivable that raw enthusiasm among core conservatives could carry him to the nomination. But then he'd have to cobble together a general election campaign team and strategy (and sufficient money to keep Obama's billion dollars from overwhelming his message) in almost no time. That's like trying to put together a viable Superbowl contender without the benefit of the team having ever played together until a month before kickoff.
I love his message, his personality, and his focus. I am deeply concerned that he just doesn't seem to understand what it will take to move his campaign to the next level. Many of his supporters don't have a clue either if they think he can win without a top tier team, several hundred million dollars in the bank, and carefully constructed and executed strategy.
Winning a big election on a wing and a prayer only happens in dime store novels and movies.
He also had this to say in a Newsmax interview about the Arizona law, On the issue of illegal immigration, Cain told Newsmax he wants to empower the states so they can enforce their own policies.“I wouldn't’t have sued Arizona,” he said, referring to the backlash against the law known as SB 1070. “I would have sent them a medal.”
Border control remains the responsibility of the federal government, but in the absence of proper enforcement, the matter should be turned over to the states, Cain told Newsmax.
“We have got to close off our borders because if we do not, we are not going to be able to deal with the other problems of enforcing the laws that are here,” he said. “One of my proposals is to empower the states to deal with the illegals that are already here.”
It's ridiculous, but that's something none of the most recent Presidential candidates on either side would have said. Cain's the first serious candidate who looks like he might win this thing that has spoken out on an issue like this that is in line with what the majority of Americans believe. The link below is the Newsmax article.
http://www.newsmax.com/InsideCover/HermanCain-Empower-States-Protect/2011/09/24/id/412152
Here's a link to Herman Cain's website. http://www.hermancain.com/
I have copied and pasted from Herman Cain’s website what he says on immigration. It’s not the same as Perry, who called us heartless and doubled down on that statement, or Romney who we all know will not do squat.
Cain on illegal Immigration (Herman Cain Website)
1) Secure the border with more boots on the ground. (Sep 2011)
2) We have a path to citizenship: it’s called legal immigration. (Aug 2011)
3) Not right to sue Arizona for trying to protect themselves. (Jun 2011)
4) Secure our borders; enforce our laws. (May 2011)
5) Where’s the fence? Not in the Immigration Bill!. (Jun 2007)
Romney is ahead of Cain by 18% in New Hampshire. So much for straw polls.
A lot can happen in a matter of weeks, much less mos. Cain is surging. Romney may well win NH anyway—and it may be the high watermark of his second failed bid.
I don’t think Herman Cain would ever give instate tuition to criminals since he has said that’s one of the main reasons he would never support Perry. Perry has already lost this thing, but if he somehow won I won’t be voting for him. No more pro-illegal immigration politicians will get my money or support. I’m heartless in the eyes of Perry because I want to end something that’s literally destroying my country. That disgusting piece of trash needs to drop out of the race and go back to Texas and pander to criminals instead of representing the legal citizens of Texas.
bloviator thinketh too much of himself.
“...but they’ve got a priest on standby with a copy of the last rites.”
And the priest’s name is Ed Rollins.
I think the Conservative Republicans who are pretty much out of the race to formally drop out and endorse and support Herman Cain. We need everyone getting behind him as soon as possible so he can start bringing in more money and getting help with his campaign.
What a bitter, sad diatribe that was. I won’t engage you anymore. I feel sorry for you.
LOL!
Surely you can’t be a Perry supporter. You sound so heartless too.
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