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Foreclosure backlog deepens
CNN/Money ^

Posted on 10/09/2011 1:12:37 PM PDT by Borough Park

NEW YORK (CNNMoney) -- As the foreclosure backlog continues to build up, delinquent borrowers are spending even more time in their homes without making mortgage payments.

Once borrowers start missing payments, they spend an average of a year and nine months, or 611 days, in foreclosure before banks repossess their homes, according to LPS Mortgage Monitor. That's more than twice as long as three years ago, when the average was 251 days. Earlier his year, the average was 523 days.

"The number of defaults in the pipeline has been huge and we had more problem loans than ever before," said Herb Belcher, who supervises analytics for Lender Processing Services (LPS), which provides mortgage industry information and analytics to big banks.

With so many bad loans, servicers have had to prioritize which ones they can deal with and which ones to push aside.

Squatter nation: five years with no mortgage payment

(Excerpt) Read more at money.cnn.com ...


TOPICS: News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: bigtaxes; freehouses; highclasswelfare; middleclass
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1 posted on 10/09/2011 1:12:38 PM PDT by Borough Park
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To: Borough Park

Gee maybe people need jobs and not another round of meager unemployment checks.


2 posted on 10/09/2011 1:23:31 PM PDT by driftdiver (I could eat it raw, but why do that when I have a fire.)
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To: Borough Park
Quite a few of the major secondary mortgage buyers have gone to full appraisal as opposed to bpo or cma. If you own a board up in the crossfire of Chicago, for instance, it would take near a 100k to rebuild it from a strict ground up appraisal point of view. It's worth no where near that in reality, but it's all about balancing the books and inflating values. This churning ugliness is ongoing.
3 posted on 10/09/2011 1:28:37 PM PDT by allmost
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To: allmost

Not quite sure what you mean here. Are you saying that companies are not foreclosing because they don’t want to take the accounting loss?


4 posted on 10/09/2011 1:41:17 PM PDT by rbg81
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To: rbg81
They were foreclosing on bpo’s ‘broker price opinion’ and cma’s ‘competitive market analysis’. These number reflect reflect true market values, but vary. They are sinking, as they should be. The secondary buyers cannot support their own worth in many cases. So they do a ‘rebuild’ appraisal and voila, that $2000 board-up now costs $95000 to replace.
5 posted on 10/09/2011 1:54:52 PM PDT by allmost
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To: Borough Park

Anyone who thinks that housing has ANY CHANCE of recovery is sadly mistaken at this point. We have YEARS TO GO here.


6 posted on 10/09/2011 2:41:17 PM PDT by BobL (I want a Conservative for 2012, not Perry)
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To: BobL

The next ‘Trumps’ are being made right now.


7 posted on 10/09/2011 2:45:43 PM PDT by allmost
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To: allmost

“The next ‘Trumps’ are being made right now.”

LOL. I hear you guys on the radio...right up the crash, and now for 5 years after. Seems EVERYONE can get rich on housing. LOL.


8 posted on 10/09/2011 2:47:23 PM PDT by BobL (I want a Conservative for 2012, not Perry)
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To: BobL

I’m not what “you guys” you are talking about. You clearly tried to insult me with your comment but failed. Buy low sell high has nothing to do with you, get over it.


9 posted on 10/09/2011 2:51:31 PM PDT by allmost
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To: allmost

“I’m not what “you guys” you are talking about. You clearly tried to insult me with your comment but failed. Buy low sell high has nothing to do with you, get over it.”

Spare me. It doesn’t matter, I have bigger things to work on.


10 posted on 10/09/2011 3:01:45 PM PDT by BobL (I want a Conservative for 2012, not Perry)
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To: BobL
Then move on. This affects us all, derogatory comments help no one.
11 posted on 10/09/2011 3:03:42 PM PDT by allmost
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To: allmost

yah....consider a home that was built contractor-spec in the mid-80’s. It had state of the art R-19 insulation all around, aluminum framed single paned glass windows and cheap heating and cooling costs at the time.

Consider that the house has probably changed hands several times, and/or been refinanced repeatedly in order to tap the “equity” to use for trips to Disneyland, braces for the kids, a new boat, personal watercraft, breast implants....you name it, the money received during those refinances was received and spent on just about anything you can imagine except an effective remodel. Many people “remodeled”, but installing a $50,000 kitchen in a (formerly) $100,000 house does not necessarily add that much value to the house, no matter who wanted to loan money on it.

Now these houses all need new windows, complete new heat and a/c systems, hot water heaters, plumbing fixtures, painting, carpeting (including new padding), paint inside and out, a new roof, upgraded insulation.....the list is extensive and expensive. But here is a bank holding a $300,000 mortgage on a house that might be work $100,000 as is, once you get the squatters out, and if they don’t trash the place before you can get them out.

In addition many States and localities stood silent as the mortgage bubble inflated around them, because the higher those property values went, the more property taxes the States, Counties and Cities all collected. With all of that cash coming in it was not hard to expand local and state government and that is exactly what happened. Now that property values are crashing, so are those very same Cities, Counties and States who have seen their revenue sources evaporate before their eyes.

Let’s not forget that when these “strategic defaulters” stop making mortgage payments, they also stop making insurance and tax payments that were formerly collected in their escrow accounts and paid out on a regular basis. Not only are they bogueing on the payments to the bank and living in a house they have no real claim to, they are continuing to live in a locality and depend on services that they are contributing nothing towards; like police, fire, street repair, street lights, etc, etc, &c, &c....

In fact many of these houses really are sub-standard and really are not worth much if you consider the repairs and upgrades they need before anyone would be willing to buy them.

What a mess.


12 posted on 10/09/2011 3:04:44 PM PDT by Bean Counter (Obama got mostly Ds and Fs all through college and law school. Keep repeating it.....)
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To: driftdiver; Chunga85

If more people fought the banks this would end ,, 3 or 4% doesn’t do it ... read this deposition , it gets especially interesting beginning with pages 13 and 14 where clear violations of the PSA regarding the ACTUAL LOAN DOCS NEVER BEING IN THE CUSTODY OF THE TRUSTEE is just a “matter of fact” ho-hum type of thing ... and this is THE MAN at Wells Fargo ,, all foreclosure doc handling goes through his hands ...


13 posted on 10/09/2011 3:07:27 PM PDT by Neidermeyer
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To: Bean Counter
You make quite a few salient points. I was referring to the vacant falling down for immediate value comparison. There's more than one way to skim this cat.
14 posted on 10/09/2011 3:12:33 PM PDT by allmost
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To: Neidermeyer

http://www.scribd.com/doc/47319955/Full-Deposition-of-Wells-Fargo-John-Herman-Kennerty

OOPS !! kids interrupted and I forgot to put the link...


15 posted on 10/09/2011 3:14:15 PM PDT by Neidermeyer
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To: allmost

You convinced me, you have no idea what you are talking about.


16 posted on 10/09/2011 3:36:12 PM PDT by org.whodat (Just another heartless American, hated by Perry and his fellow democrats.)
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To: Borough Park

what happens..is that municipalities TRY not to foreclose...drops all the other housing values...which then drops the property tax revenues...which then drops the values of the municipal bonds...etc.etc.etc...


17 posted on 10/09/2011 3:38:40 PM PDT by mo
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To: org.whodat
Fine. You explain the re-valuations currently happening. I speak from experience. I would love to hear your input.
18 posted on 10/09/2011 3:51:28 PM PDT by allmost
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To: Borough Park

The stalling on foreclosures keeps your property taxes high to fund your local government employees, so they can be paid to watch “rich” (middle class) folks more closely and be politically active enough to find ways to hike other taxes. They need the time that your tax dollars provide in order to reelect Democrats.


19 posted on 10/09/2011 4:14:00 PM PDT by familyop ("Don't worry, they'll row for a month before they figure out I'm fakin' it." --Deacon, "Waterworld")
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To: allmost
There is no place on the spread sheet that says investor fraud.
20 posted on 10/09/2011 4:20:28 PM PDT by org.whodat (Just another heartless American, hated by Perry and his fellow democrats.)
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