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Perry Supporter Calls Mormonism a “Cult”
Time ^ | October 7, 2011 | Michael Crowley

Posted on 10/07/2011 1:59:03 PM PDT by greyfoxx39

Rick Perry just gave a well received speech Here at the annual Values Voters summit in Washington, D.C.–though not flawless, the Texas governor is a lot sharper when he’s in control, not under fire in a debate setting. But the Texas pastor who introduced Perry has unexpectedly opened the door to a sensitive issue barely discussed in this primary so far: Mitt Romney’s faith.

....whether he had in fact been referring to Romney and Mormonism, Jeffers said he had. “Mormonism is a cult,” he said cheerfully, before rephrasing his onstage statement in a more explicit way: The choice, he said, is between a born again Christian and “a good moral person who is part of a cult.”

....A Perry campaign spokesman responded to a request for a comment by merely saying, “The Governor does not believe Mormonism is a cult.”

(Excerpt) Read more at swampland.time.com ...


TOPICS: News/Current Events; Politics/Elections
KEYWORDS: antimormonfatwa; antimormonjihad; cultofjoesmith; evangelical; hemanmormonhaters; itisacult; mormonism; perry; religiousintolerance; romney; zealotry
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To: Reagan Man

Early Christians (prior to the Apostasy years later) were considered a cult. I guess we are in good company as Mormongs then.


41 posted on 10/07/2011 2:42:18 PM PDT by Count of Monte Logan
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To: Ripliancum; colorcountry
He might succeed, but enough EV leaders are supporting Romney to take that particular club away this time around.

Wanna bet? Many EVs do not follow their "leaders" in lockstep the way the mormons do.

42 posted on 10/07/2011 2:43:42 PM PDT by greyfoxx39 (Joseph Smith, AmericaÂ’s first Comic Book author. He Produced the Adventures of Nephi-Mormon-Moroni)
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To: greyfoxx39
It looks like Perry's Pastor comes up short
on his values and knowledge of the WORD.

But he appears long on racism.

Cain is a born-again Baptist.


43 posted on 10/07/2011 2:44:17 PM PDT by Uri’el-2012 (Psalm 119:174 I long for Your salvation, YHvH, Your law is my delight.)
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To: Count of Monte Logan

Mormongs... run away... ;-)


44 posted on 10/07/2011 2:44:17 PM PDT by Ripliancum (Let all bitterness, wrath, anger, clamour, and evil speaking, be put away from you. -Eph. 4:31)
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To: greyfoxx39
>“The Governor does not believe Mormonism is a cult.”

Has a great section on Mormonism. Perry's Christianity, or the people he surrounds himself with, are questionable.


http://www.amazon.com/Kingdom-Cults-Walter-Martin/dp/1556617143


45 posted on 10/07/2011 2:46:35 PM PDT by ROTB (Christian sin breeds enemies for the USA. If you're a Christian, stop sinning, and spread the Word..)
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To: 353FMG
Until someone asks, no good reason for Perry to respond. I know why you made that post. There is nothing sinister about Perry's personal friendship with his fellow Texan, Aga Kahn. After all, Perry is the Governor of ALL Texans --- Christians, Jews, Muslims, whatever. They're all Americans. Perry initiated a teacher-training program on Islamic history and helped to get that curricula introduced into Texas schools. I see no evidence this is an effort to push Sharia Law, however.

Perry also personally opposes the Ground Zero mosque at the WTC sight but says its a local issue to be decided by the people of NYC. Also, the Governor is a huge supporter, defender and friend of the State of Israel.

46 posted on 10/07/2011 2:46:35 PM PDT by Reagan Man ("In this present crisis, government is not the solution to our problem; government is the problem.")
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To: greyfoxx39
Yeah, that's a bet I would take.

The opposition to Mitt on account of his faith has dropped in half (or more) since the last election. The White Evangelical Protestant column is very enlightening.

I'm not the betting type, but would love to take you up on it. We could make the bet a steak dinner if you like. Paypal approved. ;-)

47 posted on 10/07/2011 2:51:21 PM PDT by Ripliancum (Let all bitterness, wrath, anger, clamour, and evil speaking, be put away from you. -Eph. 4:31)
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To: greyfoxx39

As much as I dislike Perry, his pastor is dead on right about this one!


48 posted on 10/07/2011 2:53:31 PM PDT by reaganaut (Romney IS Obama - just paler.)
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To: UriÂ’el-2012

Sure he’s aware how Christmas came into being. Just because something was “introduced by a cult” doesn’t mean it has to remain a cult celebration.

As for Jesus being a Jew, I’ve heard anyone say he wasn’t, and isn’t.

I have also heard him preach more than a few times that Jesus will reign from Jerusalem.

Jeffress is a Christian, he lives as he believes. What’s wrong with that? Romney does the same thing. When they both die, they’ll find out who was right.


49 posted on 10/07/2011 2:55:27 PM PDT by Sporke (USS-Iowa BB-61)
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To: behzinlea

Your point would be brilliant if you could follow it up with actually links/statements on FR to mormon haters.


50 posted on 10/07/2011 2:55:29 PM PDT by svcw (Those who are easily shocked... should be shocked more often. - Mae West)
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To: greyfoxx39
Cain's ascendancy must be giving Mitt night sweats!

Are you kidding? Cain is in the tank for Romney. He's eyeing to be Romney's running mate. For cryin' out loud, he hasn't said a bad word about the guy. All Cain's ammo has been directed towards Perry.

51 posted on 10/07/2011 2:55:38 PM PDT by Drew68
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To: 353FMG
>> Although no one asked Perry, it would be helpful for the voter if he would also give his opinion on the nature of Islam<<

Perry laid the corner stone at a Mosque in Texas and here is a quote from one of his speeches.

“It is a great honor to be in the presence of the Imam of 16 million Muslims around the world, a global humanitarian leader, a man of peace with a pluralistic vision for people around the world, His Highness, the Aga Khan, the 49th Hereditary Imam of the Shia Imami Ismaili Muslims. Your Highness, on behalf of 23 million Texans, and over 600,000 thousand Muslims living in Texas, I extend our heartfelt appreciation for your 50 years of great international leadership. We are delighted to welcome you to the Lone Star State and participate in the celebration of your Golden Jubilee. I am also grateful to the many federal, state and local leaders in attendance tonight. By their presence, these special guests convey the profound respect that exists in the Western World for His Highness’ work and leadership.”

He has a rather cozy relationship with Muslims and even helped to get teaching about Muslim history in Texas classrooms.

52 posted on 10/07/2011 2:56:22 PM PDT by CynicalBear
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To: behzinlea

Straighten our Herman Cain while you’re at it. He apparently thinks Mormons are Christians.

- - - -
I already sent him a letter with my testimony on leaving Mormonism.

:)


53 posted on 10/07/2011 2:57:27 PM PDT by reaganaut (Romney IS Obama - just paler.)
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To: Ripliancum

I guarantee those numbers will change if Romney get the nom and the Media starts actually talking about his wacky Mormon beliefs - especially his racist beliefs up until he was 30, and a leader in a racist cult.


54 posted on 10/07/2011 2:57:42 PM PDT by colorcountry (Comforting lies are not your friends. Painful truths are not your enemies.)
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To: behzinlea; greyfoxx39

BTW, did you ever take the LDS missionary discussions like


55 posted on 10/07/2011 2:58:03 PM PDT by reaganaut (Romney IS Obama - just paler.)
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To: colorcountry

I’m all for doubling down, if you want in on the bet.


56 posted on 10/07/2011 3:01:54 PM PDT by Ripliancum (Let all bitterness, wrath, anger, clamour, and evil speaking, be put away from you. -Eph. 4:31)
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To: behzinlea; greyfoxx39

BTW, did you ever take the LDS missionary discussions like you promised us you were going to?


57 posted on 10/07/2011 3:02:11 PM PDT by reaganaut (Romney IS Obama - just paler.)
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To: Ripliancum

What people say to a pollster on a PC question like that, and what they actually do in the voting booth may be MILES apart....kinda like the mormons on FR who claim they didn’t/won’t vote for Mitt.


58 posted on 10/07/2011 3:04:53 PM PDT by greyfoxx39 (Joseph Smith, AmericaÂ’s first Comic Book author. He Produced the Adventures of Nephi-Mormon-Moroni)
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To: greyfoxx39

So, steak dinner or not? Regardless of who wins, we’ll use exit polling data after the Primary elections if you’re willing to back up your claim.


59 posted on 10/07/2011 3:07:09 PM PDT by Ripliancum (Let all bitterness, wrath, anger, clamour, and evil speaking, be put away from you. -Eph. 4:31)
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To: Drew68

Actually, I WAS kidding...;o)


60 posted on 10/07/2011 3:10:07 PM PDT by greyfoxx39 (Joseph Smith, AmericaÂ’s first Comic Book author. He Produced the Adventures of Nephi-Mormon-Moroni)
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