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To: ydoucare
You may enjoy this, which is about "legal gibberish". The website is about tax protesters, but they share a lot of characteristics with the Vattle Birthers.

And some tax protester arguments can only be described as complete fantasies, written in a kind of pseudo-legalistic kind of gibberish. There are therefore many court opinions in which judges have admitted that they find the “arguments” of tax protesters to be incomprehensible or incoherent. One of the most frequently cited critiques is from the 5th Circuit of Appeals, and is often quoted by judges who do not intend to waste their time trying to decipher a tax protester’s rantings:

“Crain’s present appeal ... is a hodgepodge of unsupported assertions, irrelevant platitudes, and legalistic gibberish.”

Crain v. Commissioner, 737 F.2d 1417, 1418 (5th Cir. 1984).

The author’s personal favorite is from a District Court opinion:

“[Defendant’s] argument in favor of vacating judgment is almost incomprehensible, and, to the extent it is understandable, is meritless.... “

United States v. Bell, 86 AFTR2d ¶2000-5209; CIV F 95-5346 OWW SMS (U.S.D.C. E.D.Ca. 7/24/2000).

The reason that tax protesters write gibberish is that they don’t understand basic legal concepts like jurisdiction, due process, or common law, and frequently misapply the meanings of even ordinary words like “income” and “includes.” Combine that kind of ignorance with self-righteous anger towards the entire legal system and delusions of literacy, and the result is usually an indecipherable tapestry of legal jargon woven together into an unintelligible mess.

Oh, this is sooo the Vattle Birthers!!! Here is a linkty thingy, and I have just been ROTFLMAO!!! at some of the things there, like right under the "gibberish" entry is "Paranoid and Other Delusions" - - -certain arguments of tax protesters transcend legal or logical fallacies, and can only be described as neurotic or psychotic delusions

Tax Protester FAQ's

365 posted on 10/14/2011 6:26:35 PM PDT by Squeeky ("Truth is so rare that it is delightful to tell it. " Emily Dickinson)
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To: Squeeky
Thank you for the link!! You are right, the similarities between the Vattel birthers and the tax protesters is uncanny. Both employ completely discredited and convoluted legal gibberish in their totally unsuccessful attempts to support their loser causes. I believe every “tax protester” ends up in jail, while birthers have lost every legal case and are unable to pass single piece of legislation. I am kind of new to this birther business and had not thought of this analogy, but you have shown a very accurate similarity.
367 posted on 10/14/2011 7:14:26 PM PDT by ydoucare
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To: Squeeky
You may enjoy this, which is about "legal gibberish". The website is about tax protesters, but they share a lot of characteristics with the Vattle Birthers.

Sorry, but the only gibberish is from you, squeezy, when you resort to completely off-topic posts since you obviously can't refute anything I've posted. If you want to moan and groan about tax protesters, at least take it to a thread where it's topical. Deflective logic has no place here.

369 posted on 10/14/2011 8:08:51 PM PDT by edge919
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