Posted on 10/06/2011 10:35:23 AM PDT by Cincinatus' Wife
HOUSTON -- Republican presidential candidate Herman Cain said Thursday that he would definitely consider an invitation to run as the eventual nominee’s vice president, except if the nominee turns out to be Texas Gov. Rick Perry.
Cain, who rocketed to the top tier of the GOP field in several recent polls, was asked by reporters on the campaign trail for his thoughts on a hypothetical invitation to run as the eventual nominee’s No. 2. After offering the obligatory comment that he intends to be the nominee, Cain said, “Quite frankly, based upon Gov. Perry’s position on some issues, I would not be comfortable being his vice presidential nominee.”
Those issues include Perry’s moderate stances on immigration. As governor, Perry supported legislation offering in-state college tuition for the children of illegal immigrants, which has become a flash point in his campaign. Cain said, “Issues relative to being soft on the border, issues relative to the whole, you know, tuition for children of illegal aliens. And I haven’t totally gone through all of his positions, but a lot of positions I have questions with.”
Cain, who is black, was critical of Perry after the Washington Post reported Sunday that his family owned a Texas hunting camp once known as “Niggerhead,” a word that was also painted on a rock near the camp’s entrance. Perry has maintained that his father painted over the word as soon as he bought the property in the 1980s. And Cain subsequently said he believed Perry’s explanation.
Of a vice presidential slot in general, Cain said, “I would not say no to being vice president of the United States. But it would depend upon who got the nomination. I will support who gets the nomination. I know I have said that there are some people right now who I cannot support, but I wouldn’t say no to it. I could say yes. But it has to be someone who I believe I can complement them in their job by being able to bring my skills to the table.”
At worst, Cain said Perry was insensitive. Perry, on the other hand, called me and tens of millions of conservatives heartless racists. Which "race card" do you think voters care more about?
In other words, he’s comfortable at the idea of being a vice-President... and out of the candidates running, he would not choose Perry due to his positions on hot topic issues.
Considering that Romney’s the only other frontrunner (Cain, Perry, Romney - and Cain isn’t going to be his own vice-President), that means he is comfortable with Romney’s positions more than Perry’s.
And no one here on the Free Republic is ‘comfortable’ with Romney’s positions.
Make’s one think, don’t it?
I didn’t see it. So I don’t know what she said or what the context was.
But no, we don’t have excessive employment. Our labor rates are uncompetitive to support completely open trade with third world and communist countries. Maybe that’s what she meant. But the solution is not to lower our wages, the solution is to force a balance in the trade.
Israel built a fence to stop suicide bombers. Before the Palestinians adopted that tactic en masse, there was no fence.
Israel, when faced with massive amounts of Palestinians wanting to enter Israel non-violently, let them (ie: from 1967 till the first intifada). They put up screening checkpoints and kept them from staying by denying them the ability to buy/rent housing as long as their nationality was listed as Palestinian.
That could work here. Which would render the fetish known as a fence a moot point.
Nicely said.
I’ll reply to you once more and that’s it.
Perry did respond and explained the whole situation with the rock, which was not on his property and which his father painted over the first time he saw it.
And, by the way, the name on the rock, while offensive, did not refer to a person but to a variety of wildflower that grew on the ranch.
Whatever he did very long ago, he is now a staunch conservative and has been for years. On all the issues important to me and most conservatives, he is spot on.
If you want to believe myths, then do so and you may end up with the original Myth, that’s Myth Romney.
The Federal government does too much now. I’m for any candidate that will not only shrink it’s size; but more importantly, shrink it’s scope.
Perry has that record. Romney does not. Cain looks to keep the status quo on this.
The black “pizza salesman” is a mathematician with a master’s degree, worked as a rocket scientist for the US Navy, climbed the ladder in corporate world at Coca-cola, VP at Pillsbury where he rescued a failing Burger-King division, then led a group to buyout Godfather’s Pizza which was going bankrupt and turned it into profitability. Later he served as chairman of Kansas Federal Reserve.
Looks to me like he is better qualified than any other republican running or sitting on the side lines.
However if Perry or Newt win the nomination, I have no problem either.
Also degrees do not make a good President or not good President. They are worthless in this regard.
I am totally disappointed on how the “experienced” governors/politicians/senators have run the country so far. May be it is time to try something different.
Also why you keep saying Cain just ran a pizza company? How about his several years as chair of Kansas Federal Reserve where he had to interact with every bank in the region, his brilliant mathematics background as a rocket scientist, and other corporate accomplishments?
Frankly there is no one in my family close to being a rocket scientist although I was a pretty good heavy machinery engineer! How about Perry’s? Or Romney’s?
Perry has been using the “boots on the ground” phrase *and* spending funds from his own office budget, those from our Department of Public Safety, and encouraging legislation to add men and equipment to supplement the federal funding.
Go and read this article: http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/2788889/posts
Here’s some quotes from “Fed Up!”
“We have already been burned once by false promises of border security in exchange for tying security to other aspects of the immigration debate. President Regan, in 1986, signed the immigration reform and control act, which legalized close to 3 million undocumented immigrants. The law was supposed to be a comprehensive solution with provisions intended to clamp down on border security. These provisions were never enforced, and the subsequent explosion in illegal crossings has resulted in some 11 million illegal aliens living in the United States today an estimated 1.8 million illegal immigrants are currently residing in Texas, compared with 1.1 million in 2000. In ten years, that represents an increase of 54 percent or 70,000 persons each year coming to our state illegally. Today, the Pew Hispanic Center estimates than about one in ten people born in Mexico live in the United States. And all of this has occurred outside the system and to the disadvantage of others who have been waiting in line for many years. There are literally millions of people waiting to get into the country legally.” P.118-119
“But I strongly support the right of the citizens of Arizona, Texas, or any other state to pass laws to protect themselves. In fact, we joined in federal court with eight other states to help defend Arizona against the Obama administration’s lawsuit.”
Perry, Rick; Newt Gingrich (2010-11-15). Fed Up!: Our Fight to Save America from Washington (p. 161). Little, Brown and Company. Kindle Edition.
Now, the current administration willfully refuses to enforce the laws on the books. While President Bush didn’t fo as much as I had hoped, his administration did step up workplace enforcement, reducing the enticement for illegal immigration. President Obama on the other hand, has reversed course. He also has intentionally undermined one of the few successful measures the federal government has implemented. Section 287 (g) of the Immigration and Nationality Act allows the deputization” of local law enforcement after training from federal authorities so that they may process illegal immigrants detained in the course of law enforcement activities for removal. This program simply allows local officials to aid Immigration and Customs Enforcement in the application of our laws.
“Bowing to pressure from interest groups in favor of unchecked illegal immigration , the Obama administration has instead issued new requirements intended to curtail the program by making it more expensive, among other things. So the Federal government is now manipulating successful programs to stop willing local jurisdictions from doing the federal government’s job themselves.”
(Referring to the explanation about 287 (g) at http://www.heritage.org/research/reports/2010/03/time-to-stop-the-rush-for-amnesty-immigration-reform
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/2788889/posts
” I have long been a proponent of strategic fencing because it is a critical component of border security, and it works when used in the right places.
” I think what caused the hang up was that after it was passed, it was amended to give Homeland Security complete discretion on how, when and whether the fence ever gets built. Obviously with this president, that means it will never be completed.
” If I’m elected, I will direct my Secretary of Homeland Security to expedite construction of strategic fencing along the border, especially in high traffic areas where manpower alone is insufficient to do the job.
” But it’s important to remember that fencing is only one component of an overall border security strategy. A fence is only as secure as it is manned.”
Perry voted for Ronald Reagan against Carter and for Ronald Reagan against Mondale.
If Michele Bachmann’s husband is “gay”, he has a very weird way of showing it. He counsels them when they want to get out of that lifestyle, he has been married to Michele for 33 years and is the father of their 5 children.
But that is neither here nor there when it comes to her problems she brought on herself that have nothing to do with him.
Oh yeah, the same election cycle in which Rick Perry...then still a Democrat...supported Gore in the primaries was also the one in which, after Michael Dukakis won the Dem nomination, he voted for George HW Bush in the general election.
People need to buy a clue about the history of Texas politics. Many Texas Democrats voted for Reagan, and quite a few voted for George HW Bush against Dukakis, even with Texan Lloyd Bentsen on the ticket to try to carry Texas.
Many of these voters are now card carrying Republicans.
Romney’s father ran a car company, now no longer in existence.
Perry’s father was a cotton farmer.
So was Perry in his younger days, along with his father.
I can’t remember who said this, or I would credit them, but a FReeper once said that he trusted Perry the dirt poor cotton farmer with his vote for President far more than he could ever trust the slick, elitist, super rich Romney.
I actually believe that, as well. I have a college degree, but one side of my family was rural and involved with agriculture. I have also been to Paint Creek where Perry grew up and I understand the people. It doesn’t make anyone perfect to have that background, nobody is perfect, but I prefer people from that background in my dealings more than I do any other.
Perry was an Air Force Captain and flew the C-130. That is a positive on the Resume.
So I guess for you, a WashPost hatchet job against Perry ... bad. A Mother Jones hatchet job against Cain ... good.
Principled FReepers realize both are assumed to be hatchet jobs, given the source, unless proven otherwise by running down the facts, and will not use them as an attack on a candidate until that vetting is done. Principled FReepers realize we need to vet the stories, not just the candidates.
And BTW, I think Cain should have waited to get the facts before running with the N-head story against Perry. So he was wrong there, as you are wrong here. Two wrongs don't make a right, just a mud pit.
If there’s no chance of him winning and he’s risking splitting the conservative vote, which the original poster inferred. I was addressing the him based on his folly.
If there’s no chance of him winning and he’s risking splitting the conservative vote, which the original poster inferred about Cain. I was addressing the him based on his folly.
Actually, both bad. I googled "Cain-2nd amendment" and some were less flattering than MJ.
Yet you posted the MJ attack against Cain. So what gives?
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