[Swordmaker]

Jobs hired very smart people. They did the work. Jobs gets the glory because he was the one behind the microphone demoing the product at the introduction. . . (and the rest of your tripe)

You really do not know what you are talking through your hat about. I suggest you read the New York Times' Obituary about some of that... about Steve Jobs' actual hands on approach to development... including that blue box he and Steve Wozniak built and sold before Apple. Yes, Woz built the Apple I, but he and Jobs designed and built the Apple II... But Steve Wozniak LEFT Apple in 1985, so he knows nothing about what happened internally after that except grapevine stuff. He wasn't there. So quoting Woz as evidence of what happened is third hand, hearsay. Listen to what people who WORKED there say... you've been told several times on here, yet you keep repeating the tripe.

[Aqua225]

Hedgetrimmer is a troll, and I admit I am feeding him.

He is not even a classy troll, and he just twists our words to his liking anyway. He knows exactly what we mean, he just wants to split hairs.

Let’s just leave him to his trolling. Trolls die without food.

[hedgetrimmer]

But Steve Wozniak LEFT Apple in 1985, and Steve Jobs was fired!