Posted on 10/05/2011 1:32:48 AM PDT by neverdem
While I certainly understand the frustration of those who complain of RINO primary rise, it's important to accept the reality of how it happens. It is not, as some would say, a matter of the "Republican Party giving us another John McCain." Nominees aren't appointed; they're elected. It is not the result of a New World Order conspiracy bent on keeping the Ron Pauls of the world from power. Voters may sometimes have chips on their shoulders; there are no controlling chips in their brains. Of course, the media can and do shape public opinion, but they only truly sing in unison when their candidate (read: any Democrat) has his hide on the line during the general election.
To truly understand why a RINO (Republican in Name Only) will likely win the nomination, we only have to consider the following poll numbers: Mitt Romney, 25 percent; Rick Perry, 16; Herman Cain, 16; Ron Paul, 11; Newt Gingrich, 7; and Michele Bachmann, 7. What is notable about this list? Romney, widely viewed as the most liberal of the major contenders, leads the pack. Is this because the Republican base now reflects the Massachusetts GOP?
Or is it because too many are dividing up the traditionalist-vote pie?
Note that every listed candidate but Romney is seen, generally speaking, as being of the right. Of course, many will point out that Perry and Gingrich are RINOs as well. But the critical factor is perception. The Texas governor is largely viewed as a conservative who has had dalliances with the Democrat devil; Gingrich is considered a conservative with too much personal and Beltway baggage; Paul is seen as a rightist libertarian with some outside-the-box views. But it's one thing to be a conservative who occasionally attends a liberal masquerade party.
It's quite another to...
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We have met the enemy ... and he is us.
When you examine the political sensibilities of the 129 million votes cast for POTUS (yea, on the Dem side some have voted more than once and some dead miraculously continue to vote), you can see how a Juan McQueeg wins a GOP primary. There is plenty of time to filter out the field but we do need to get some momentum building for the ABR conservative candidate.
This author laments conservatives dividing the vote and giving the primary to Romney. He says he’s as conservative as anyone and more than most.
He ends the article by saying that we need to choose the lesser of 2 evils no matter who the Republican nominee is. Therefore, a vote for Romney, in his mind, is a vote cast the right way.
Claptrap.
A vote for Romney is a vote for the establishment to continue manipulating conservatives.
A vote for a third party candidate is a warning shot across the establishment’s bow.
I will NOT for any reason vote for Romney. I will vote the the sane, pro-life conservative who is running for president.
By what measure do you say that? There is no central national Tea Party (yet). An the weaker candidates may have been early to seek Tea Party endorsement but some of the stronger candidates have been more cautious to court them openly. The effect of the Tea Party movement (if you want to call it that) will decide this election and the future of the country. It is about Patriots stepping forward. And don't ever underestimate the old grey eagles.
It puts everything on winning Iowa. Everything. And she has to be in before the end of this month.
The least experienced candidates are the Tea Party favorites. A congresswoman with nothing special about her record. A corporate franchise operator who couldn’t get a win in a GA primary. Ideology trumps everything else, it seems. Christine O’Donnell syndrome.
LOL! Well put! People are looking for someone whom they perceive to be free of the evil influences of a political career, and thus "like them" and pure, but the problem is that even if such a person could get elected, they would be incapable of governing because they simply wouldn't know how to get things done.
Obama had little real experience in running things but a fair amount of experience in dirty politics, and that's still all he knows how to do. But he came in with an entire hidden ideological team behind him, setting the policies he was supposed to follow, and he treated the US government just as if it were the Chicago machine. He managed to get a lot of the ideological programs through because he simply ignored constitutional US political procedure and stuck to his Chicago background, where everything was decided behind the scenes and pushed through the public approval process using bribery and intimidation. So political experience, for better or for worse, is essential. Maybe next time we can get somebody who respects our process, doesn't think he's king, etc....but still, a candidate can't be a babe in the woods politically.
The problem with any GOP candidate who has actually held any major position or engaged in election politics is that there will be something that can be used as a "gotcha" moment to prove that they are not as purely conservative as that innocent little candidate of people's dreams. I think one of the reasons Palin left the governorship was that she was considering a run in the future and wanted to put some distance between herself and her political past so that she wouldn't have to be running on her record (which was a good one, but I'm sure had things that could be twisted).
I think we've got to keep projecting the principles that actually attract people: a free economy, a free society with small governhment, support for traditional US family and social standards, etc. That's what Reagan did, but certainly on a day-to-day basis, he made a lot of pragmatic decisions that would now get people screaming that he was a RINO.
Yes.. I will post more below as to what I think she is up to and we are simpatico in many regards. FWIW, I don't think Romney can handle her in a debate, He will look to slick and polished aka the annuity salesman, and the general public doesn't get how fierce she is, go look at the grainy videos of her in the Alaska Governor debates on YouTube. IMHO she is lying in the tall grass like a mountain lion waiting to pounce in the debates. She will shock many with her command of the facts and her wit. She will not be the Tina Fey stereotype. IMHO Once the veneer is off of Romney he will sink like a stone...
IMHO here is what I think she is doing, Ergo the Talking to the Cow 1st in IOWA instead of the Media....
* The Lame Streams are trying to pick our Candidate again..
* With that as a given she is letting them slug it out and isn't going to play that game, GOP circular Firing squad, and they have already hit one another...
* They will try to give us Romney or Perry, but per above Perry is already toast..
* She jumps in as the Conservative Alternative to go along get along RINOism that many here and by extension all Tea Party types are sick of.
* As of now Herman Cain would make an excellent VP with his CEO Turn Around Expert Experience, man he is impressive...
* By doing so she does not get caught in the lamestreams undertow, and follows Sun Tzu'sadvice that (paraphrasing here) the General that picks his battlefield rather than fight on the battlefield of his adversary and picks it his or her terms if you will, has already won.
* Her enemy is not time out of the race, but time in as the lamestreams try again to destroy her and her family like they have tried since 2008, they are now all battle proven. especially little Piper.
* They didn't destroy her family they only made them stronger..
Again Reagan's concept of bright colors not muted pastels, Rush gets this, and this is why they ( Liberals and North East, Blue hair, martini sipping, Country Club, Check Pants, RINO Republicans) fear her, she is not muted...
IMHO the day she announces my guess she is flooded with volunteers and the money coming in crashes the receiving source on line, they won't have the bandwidth for it, my guess 10 to 40 million donated day one...
I think that we have to look at a candidate’s overall record. There will always be individual issues, or rather the handling of individual issues, that we disagree with, but it has to have an overall conservative pattern.
There is nothing conservative about Romney. He’s big-government, managed economy, not pro-life, not pro-family, evasive about his views on a lot of things, and I cannot see how the GOP can even consider him.
A frickin men!
When all you have is political oatmeal, just adding a little sugar does not change the fact that is it still oatmeal.....
We got here because we keep accepting, not demanding!
What is needed is not experience in DC, but the real world. And the properties of ethical, honest American values. That will win, all else will simply be more of the same.
Ding ding ding. Very astute observation.
Conservatives are the ones shredding the conservative candidates.
Instead, they latch onto a gadfly congresswoman and a franchise restaurant operator who couldn't win a GA primary.
And the conservatives are out knocking each other off, the media talking heads are knocking off conservatives, and conservatives themselves are busy helping in the destruction of one or more conservatives who have problems in just one or 2 areas.
Priority of Concerns for Conservatives
1. Life - pro-life
2. Guns - pro self-defense, national defense
3. God - free exercise of religion to include free speech on religious issues
4. Money - sound, sane policies that spend only on the most critical areas and spend no more than taken in
5. Military - designed/organized to win; support for troops; rationally interventionist for true vital national interests; not used against American people nor as social experiment lab.
6. Marriage and Family - the natural nuclear family as the best foundation for a trained, moral society
7. Homeland security - a coastal and border security that controls and intercepts anything or anyone that enters the nation. A vital information network that identifies threats within our borders and deals with them appropriately.
8. Others?
What is your definition of “experience”?
Mine certainly does not require “government service”. Citizen legislatures and Senators would be my preference to DC Drones.
It is TIME to DownSize DC! And insiders will NOT do that.
Maybe we need to totally reconsider this entire nomination process. We all have seen tv shows wherby the winner is chosen by na process of elimination. What if we could simply vote for the candidate that we would most like to eliminate first.
I believe that is just one of a few “hints” that show her to be seriously considering running. I think she sees what we see.....the RINOs gaining traction and thinks that must stop....Although Cain is not a RINO and just starting up the rankings, she wants to ensure it is a true conservative. I find that article very exciting.
Mine certainly does not require “government service”. Citizen legislatures and Senators would be my preference to DC Drones.
I agree in principle. However, as in the case of Herman Cain, being a political CEO (especially of the largest political organization in the history of the world) is markedly different than being CEO of a pizza chain. I will take him over the current field... but I'm praying to God for Gov Palin! She is right on the issues with the political savvy and experience (and organization) we need.
This is right on target; Republican primary voters in the Midwest in particularly have been nominating “moderate” congressional candidates for years under this same scenario. I don’t think the Republican primary voters can ever learn. Most are so uninformed that all they know to do is ratify the popular liberal press choice.
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