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Killing of U.S.-born terrorist raises questions (Can the rookie Hussein assassinate?)
The Eagle ^ | 10/01/11 | MATT APUZZO

Posted on 10/01/2011 5:55:13 AM PDT by Libloather

Killing of U.S.-born terrorist raises questions
By MATT APUZZO
Associated Press
Published Saturday, October 01, 2011 12:06 AM

WASHINGTON -- President Barack Obama steered the nation's war machine into uncharted territory Friday when a U.S. drone attacked a convoy in Yemen and killed two American citizens who had become central figures in al-Qaida.

It was believed to be the first instance in which a U.S. citizen was tracked and executed based on secret intelligence and the president's say-so. And it raised major questions about the limitations of presidential power.

**SNIP**

"This court recognizes the somewhat unsettling nature of its conclusion -- that there are circumstances in which the executive's unilateral decision to kill a U.S. citizen overseas is 'constitutionally committed to the political branches' and judicially unreviewable," Bates wrote. "But this case squarely presents such a circumstance."

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TOPICS: Crime/Corruption; Extended News; Government; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: killing; questions; terrorist; yemen
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To: PeteB570; Pining_4_TX
>> When the US Government starts doing air strikes on US churches get back with me.<<

From the comments on these threads I would doubt there will be many who rise up. There will have been sufficient reasoning given for the actions and most will sit quietly in there safe havens and justify.

81 posted on 10/01/2011 8:13:42 AM PDT by CynicalBear
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To: Libloather
what is the Arabic word for Bundist?
82 posted on 10/01/2011 8:28:08 AM PDT by Oratam
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To: Lady Lucky

It got Canceled.


83 posted on 10/01/2011 8:30:30 AM PDT by Surrounded_too
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To: Pining_4_TX

“............Are you saying it’s OK for the president to have someone killed just because they are not on US soil? .......”

If you stretch what I said about Islamic terrorists, US citizen or not, trying to kill all Americans into “..have someone killed just because they are not on US soil..” you, my child, are so frickin’ naive you should stay off the internet.

PS - I just alerted Obama’s black helicopter cleansing squadron about you. You know too much. They should be over your house in a few minutes to pick you up and take you to the secret camp on Ft Bragg for political prisoners.

/s


84 posted on 10/01/2011 8:31:35 AM PDT by PeteB570 ( Islam is the sea in which the Terrorist Shark swims. The deeper the sea the larger the shark.)
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To: Lady Lucky

Dead or Alive -

Canceled by the Network


85 posted on 10/01/2011 8:33:00 AM PDT by Surrounded_too
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To: Libloather

“The notable fences along international borders, the Maginot Line, the Wall of China, the Israeli fence around the west bank, all have been less than effective when considered over a long period of history. The time periods when they were effective were the time periods when there were lots of boots enforcing the effectiveness of these barriers.”

True, and if there were Mexican tanks facing us, I’d agree that a fence would be useless. But for keeping people under control, they certainly worked well in East Germany, and they HAVE worked great in Israel, where there were suicide bombings every 2 weeks killing dozens of people. Even the Arabs know that.


86 posted on 10/01/2011 8:36:35 AM PDT by BobL (PLEASE READ: http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/2657811/posts)
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To: tobyhill

“Had he even been indicted? Bin Laden was at least indicted and he wasn’t even a US citizen.”

Not even a close call for me. If you take up arms against the US military, you’re fair game.

NOT EVEN CLOSE.


87 posted on 10/01/2011 8:38:23 AM PDT by BobL (PLEASE READ: http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/2657811/posts)
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To: Libloather

I would have “assassinated” this particular US citizen, as well. =.=


88 posted on 10/01/2011 8:42:13 AM PDT by cranked
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To: BobL
He's fair game definitely but an indictment just says that there's some evidence that he is what the Government says he is.

An indictment along with the underwear bomber and the Ft. Hood Shooter was just too easy for the DOJ not to get unless they don't feel there was enough to get an indictment.

It's just more proof that the Obama Administration can't even do the simple task.

An indictment would not have prevented the CIA from killing him anyway.

89 posted on 10/01/2011 8:47:06 AM PDT by tobyhill (A Democrat that doesn't lie would be a lie)
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To: tobyhill

Yea...but I DON’T CARE, and I actually do appreciate Obama dealing with this, in this way. I want EVERYONE who’s a citizen of the US to know that they cannot go overseas and take up arms against us, without us getting a bit pissed off.


90 posted on 10/01/2011 8:52:42 AM PDT by BobL (PLEASE READ: http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/2657811/posts)
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To: BobL

I don’t trust any part of this administration.


91 posted on 10/01/2011 9:05:19 AM PDT by tobyhill (A Democrat that doesn't lie would be a lie)
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To: tobyhill

“I don’t trust any part of this administration.”

Fair comment...but I just LOVE the thought of a terrorist being killed by drone, flown by some unnamed guy in an undisclosed location in Virgina. I don’t care who’s president when that happens.


92 posted on 10/01/2011 9:08:14 AM PDT by BobL (PLEASE READ: http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/2657811/posts)
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To: Chode

Lets just all agree he needed killin.

Besides he was probably guilty of resisting a drone.


93 posted on 10/01/2011 9:09:36 AM PDT by Georgia Girl 2 (The only purpose of a pistol is to fight your way back to the rifle you should never have dropped.)
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To: DManA

There has been no “legal defense” of this action from anything I’ve seen, except talking heads and radio interviews with various legal experts coming down on one side or the other. I understand there was a court case a while back that was filed by his father on his behalf when he was first named as an al-Qaeda operative, and that was dismissed in a Federal court by a judge who said the Federal courts had no authority over these matters.


94 posted on 10/01/2011 9:17:46 AM PDT by Alberta's Child ("If you touch my junk, I'm gonna have you arrested.")
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To: EBH
Very interesting twist on the whole thing, wouldn't you say?

So this case involves a government overseen by an Indonesian guy issuing an order to kill a U.S.-born Yemeni citizen in Yemen.

Maybe I should just ask someone to please wake me up when I should give a sh!t, eh?

95 posted on 10/01/2011 9:20:15 AM PDT by Alberta's Child ("If you touch my junk, I'm gonna have you arrested.")
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To: Pining_4_TX

My guts sez “Great, this clown got blowed up” while the more I think about it, maybe it doesnt seem right.
We cant declare war on a person or idea. So the war on terror is misleading. We can declare war on countries supporting terror, but Thats about all.
But then again we couldnt send in US marshalls to pick him up.there was never a arrest warrent for him and even if there was, the country he was hiding in would never allow us to get him.
Then there is the timing of it. A year before the elections and now Obama starts going after Muslim terrorists like he was Chuck Norris. Maybe Obama is trying to get everyones minds off the fact everything he has done is making the US a third world country. he is looking for a “Osama bounce”.
I dont know what to think...so I am going to assume the worse because after three years of Obama, that is what I am conditioned to do.


96 posted on 10/01/2011 9:23:50 AM PDT by Yorlik803 (better to die on your feet than live on your knees.)
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To: BobL

I love it too but I still see no reason Holder didn’t get an indictment in the 3 years he’s known about this terrorist activities and connections.


97 posted on 10/01/2011 9:33:52 AM PDT by tobyhill (A Democrat that doesn't lie would be a lie)
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To: Libloather

What is more amazing is the media blackout on the total and utter silence of the left anti-war crowd on this and OBL. I mean where is code pink, Cindy shehand, and the other leftist attention whores calling for Obama to be tried as a war criminal? Why aren’t they slinging blood at Hillary Clinton?

I guess they are all just rotting corpses outside the Crawford Ranch after starving to death protesting President Bush. It was always obvious that they were only against the war because President Bush made the hard decision to fight it. Like the feminists and Bill Clinton, anti-war crowd and Bill Clinton, and now anti-war crowd and Obama the left is no where to be seen when their bliefs are put to the test they have to abandoned their principles but we all knew they were just faux-priciples to began with.


98 posted on 10/01/2011 9:44:00 AM PDT by Captain Beyond (The Hammer of the gods! (Just a cool line from a Led Zep song))
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To: Lady Lucky
Oh, you're welcome!

I had done a bit of research on those things myself a while back after having a long thread here on the historical underpinnings of a "citizen militia" here in the U.S.

99 posted on 10/01/2011 9:49:15 AM PDT by Alberta's Child ("If you touch my junk, I'm gonna have you arrested.")
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To: Chode

So what does that do to Barry Suharto and his foreign student status at Occidental?


100 posted on 10/01/2011 9:50:49 AM PDT by Steamburg (The contents of your wallet is the only language Politicians understand.)
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