Posted on 09/30/2011 12:03:06 AM PDT by Watchdog85
A friend sent me an interesting Youtube video a couple of days ago, and Ive been spending some time watching it and thinking about it. Its a video from PBS consisting of an interview by Judy Woodruff of Doug Schoen and Elliot Ackerman, two of the principals of this group. As I listened to them, this all sounded very enticing on its surface, but the longer they spoke, the more I began to wonder about who is behind all of this. It seems like an effort to circumvent the ordinary electoral process, and when I think of that notion, the first thing that leaps into mind is George Soros and his effort to take over the Secretaries of State who oversee elections in all of our fifty states. Im always a little wary about third party movements and similar efforts, because I always wonder who is behind them. Before leaping into any such effort, its worthwhile to see what we can learn about such an organization.
Sometimes, its quite obvious, like in the case of Ross Perot in 1992 and 1996, but other times requires a good deal of investigating. This case is not so obvious because theyre not mentioning any particular candidates, but instead a process of direct nomination skipping the two-party system. Watch this fascinating video: http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=VXPLYCPJnWU
My curiosity got the better of me, and I immediately went out in search of answers. I knew a little about Doug Schoen, but not enough to be thorough, and I had never encountered Elliott Ackerman before. I started by going over to the AmericansElect.org website, and looked for an About Us or Who We Are page, and I found one. Its here: Who We Are Study this list.
Now understand that I dont believe in guilt by association, but I want us to be careful and thorough. Elliott Ackerman is the son of Peter Ackerman, and Joanne Leedom-Ackerman. Douglas Schoen is a long time insider. Also on the list is Carla Hills, former US Secretary of Housing and US Trade Representative. As you look through the list, there is no shortage of movers and shakers, or those with direct ties to the elite. This is a rather funny list of people to be working on a well-funded grass roots organization, isnt it?
Speaking of funding, where are they getting all of that money? Judy Woodruff asked directly, but Elliot Ackerman side-stepped the question. We can come back to this in due course.
What is curious about this group is the number of connections it has with another group. Just for the sake of curiosity, I compared the folks listed on the Who Are We page for Americans Elect to another group: The International Crisis Group. So who what do these two groups have in common? Well, Douglas Schoen and Carla Hills, but also an interesting tidbit: Joanne Leedom-Ackerman is part of this group. As we remember from above, thats Elliots mother. This is a happy coincidence, with father and son working in one group with Doug Schoen and Carla Hills, along with many other elites, and wife and mother working in another group with Doug Schoen and Carla Hills, along with many other global elites.
Now while young Mr. Ackerman wouldnt tell us who is contributing to the Americans Elect group operations, it could be interesting, for comparison only, of course, to take a look at who is funding ICG. According to Wikipedia:
Philanthropist George Soros who is chairman of the Open Society Institute is on the Board of Trustees.
Isnt that just the most amazing thing? Just like clockwork, in walks the villain. Now of course, since the young Mr. Ackerman declined to tell us who is bankrolling Americans Elect, well have to leave that to our imaginations for the moment. Ahem.
Now I dont mean to tell you anything in particular about Americans Elect, but before a single person involves themselves with this organization, I would encourage them to ask the leadership to disclose who has funded their operations to date. In short, I believe in full disclosure, particularly if an organizations stated intention is to elect the next President of the United States. In that spirit, heres a little more about Pappy[Peter] Ackerman: Founder of Americans Elect Used Tax Shelter Scheme
Just imagine: Soros funds Obama. Soros funds others. Soros funds all sorts of things. To be honest, when I heard Doug Schoen say the word openness while he and the young Mr. Ackerman refused to disclose the name(s) of donors, my antennae were immediately raised. Remembering Schoen has urged Obama to decline renomination, I was further intrigued. This is the signature maneuver of a Soros operation, and while all of this could be simple coincidence, as you know by now, in politics, those are actually damnably rare. Watch out for this group. There are a couple of ways this could go, and Im wary about most of them. While there is no direct tie to Soros as yet, the single degree of separation for so many of the key people certainly makes me wonder. I could see this being used to exploit people to the detriment of the country, which is generally the trend with anything in which this elite jet-set is involved.
Links:
http://www.americanselect.org/
http://www.americanselect.org/who-we-are
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/International_Crisis_Group
http://californiawatch.org/dailyreport/founder-americans-elect-used-tax-shelter-scheme-11790
Looks like Soros is trying to subvert our elections.
Links again
http://www.americanselect.org/
http://www.americanselect.org/who-we-are
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/International_Crisis_Group
http://californiawatch.org/dailyreport/founder-americans-elect-used-tax-shelter-scheme-11790
It’s the only hope they have to get Obama reelected.
“Philanthropist George Soros who is chairman of the Open Society Institute is on the Board of Trustees. “
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Calling Soros a philanthropist is like calling the devil a
philanthropist.
It has been widely assumed that Soros is the head puppet master of Obumbo.
The door has been left open, and the cancer has spread and is waiting for the cue to go terminal. 2012 and the lead up will be interesting
Ping - more Soros election subversion.
Who is behind Americans elect(Soros trying to keep power)
. . . . Article, also check out # 4.
Thanks, SatinDoll.
You’re welcome.
Cue to go terminal, indeed. Seems now days that every sniff test turns up Soros.
” . . .And while we have been working up the primary challenge against the president in the fall, I am hearing those bastards have been attempting to install a 3rd candidate scenario to split the vote. Not just idle talk, but actual negotiations having taken place. If they pull that off, well, I dont know. We had not prepared for that scenario. Its a long shot for them, but it put a scare in me. In all of us. “
I’ve been seeing this attempt on various sites, there’s a group of Democrates looking for possible candidates to run against Obama. Time will tell if simply a proganda rumor or there’s teeth in it.
There’s a big difference between a candidate to oppose Obama in the primaries (which would weaken his chances of re-election) and a third-party effort (which could easily siphon votes from the GOP candidate in November, particularly if it were somebody like Ron Paul). Remember that Perot’s third-party run gave us Clinton.
Thanks for the ping.
Cancer is a very good analogy.
I bet that this group runs Ron Paul.
Hey Watchdog, I just clicked on a foxnews.com article by stossel about why it’s dumb to buy American and on the right panel is an advertisement for Americans Elect 2012.
http://www.foxnews.com/opinion/2011/11/02/why-buy-american-is-dumb-idea/?intcmp=obnetwork
Got my Gibbs Gutt feeling so I thought I’d look around and found your thread. You might want to post a thread with a link to their about page and keep it in the light.
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