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Do medical marijuana users have right to bear arms? No, says ATF
MSNBC ^ | 09/29/2011 | Matt Volz

Posted on 09/29/2011 9:35:55 AM PDT by LonelyCon

Firearms dealers in states that allow medical marijuana can't sell guns or ammunition to registered users of the drug, a policy that marijuana and gun-rights groups say denies Second Amendment rights to individuals who are following state law.

Federal law already makes it illegal for someone to possess a gun if he or she is "an unlawful user of, or addicted to" marijuana or other controlled substances.

A Sept. 21 letter from the Bureau of Alcohol, Tobacco, Firearms and Explosives, issued in response to numerous inquiries from gun dealers, clarifies that medical marijuana patients are included in that definition. "There are no exceptions in federal law for marijuana purportedly used for medicinal purposes, even if such use is sanctioned by state law," said the letter by Arthur Herbert, the ATF's assistant director for enforcement programs and services.

Federal firearm licensees, or FFLs, can't sell a gun to someone who answers "yes" when a required form asks whether the buyer is a controlled substance user.

Last week's letter also says that licensed dealers can't sell a gun or ammunition if they have "reasonable cause to believe" the buyer is using a controlled substance.

That includes if the buyer presents a medical marijuana card as identification, or if the buyer talks about drug use, having a medical marijuana card or a recent drug conviction, ATF spokesman Drew Wade said Wednesday.

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TOPICS: Culture/Society; Extended News; Government; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: atf; banglist; batfe; batfeisajoke; ffls; govtabuse; guns; marijuana; secondamendment; tyranny
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To: SatinDoll

“She takes time-released morphine, and to keep the nausea down, smokes marijuana.”

Keep the nausea down from what?


101 posted on 09/29/2011 10:28:14 PM PDT by dsc (Any attempt to move a government to the left is a crime against humanity.)
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To: dsc

Morphine makes her extremely nauseous.


102 posted on 09/29/2011 10:33:21 PM PDT by SatinDoll (NO FOREIGN NATIONALS AS OUR PRESIDENT!)
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To: SatinDoll

“Morphine makes her extremely nauseous.”

Well, I guess these things affect different people in different ways.

I’m not comfortable either with her having a gun or not having a gun.


103 posted on 09/29/2011 10:40:24 PM PDT by dsc (Any attempt to move a government to the left is a crime against humanity.)
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To: KC_Lion; rabscuttle385

ping


104 posted on 09/30/2011 6:25:50 AM PDT by bamahead (Few men desire liberty; most men wish only for a just master. -- Sallust)
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To: org.whodat

>Jail house convict screams at judge what right do you have to lock me up, he points at deputy with gun.

So your legal argument for the authority of the federal government to regulate drugs is basically “I have a gun, damnit!”?


105 posted on 09/30/2011 12:36:17 PM PDT by OneWingedShark (Q: Why am I here? A: To do Justly, to love mercy, and to walk humbly with my God.)
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To: OneWingedShark

No slow one, the judge and the man with the gun have their power because the represent the will of the people. When the dope heads become the majority the judge and the man with the gun will represent them.


106 posted on 09/30/2011 3:46:33 PM PDT by org.whodat (Just another heartless American, hated by Perry and his fellow democrats.)
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To: org.whodat

>No slow one, the judge and the man with the gun have their power because the represent the will of the people.

Several things:
1) You assume that someone in an official uniform has a legal authority. {Counter example: A sheriff not in his own county.}
2) You assume that that legal authority represents the will of the people. {Counter example: The TSA.}
3) You misconstrue what I asked, either purposefully or ignorantly, which was “what legal authority does the federal government have to regulate drugs, especially considering that a Constitutional amendment was required to take that same regulatory power in the case of the drug alcohol? “
4) You call me slow because I ask you to explain your reasoning, why?

>When the dope heads become the majority the judge and the man with the gun will represent them.

That is the inherent problem of a Democracy, not [necessarily of] a Republic like our Constitution lays out.


107 posted on 09/30/2011 3:58:52 PM PDT by OneWingedShark (Q: Why am I here? A: To do Justly, to love mercy, and to walk humbly with my God.)
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To: OneWingedShark
Wrong on all points, but nice try, now get off the drugs and head on over to du.
108 posted on 09/30/2011 4:04:09 PM PDT by org.whodat (Just another heartless American, hated by Perry and his fellow democrats.)
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To: org.whodat
4) You call me slow because I ask you to explain your reasoning, why?

How in Chaos can I be wrong on #4!? It's a question!

109 posted on 09/30/2011 4:19:15 PM PDT by OneWingedShark (Q: Why am I here? A: To do Justly, to love mercy, and to walk humbly with my God.)
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To: LonelyCon

Unfortunately, most marijuana users don’t seem to realize that the medical marijuana card is basically a form of marijuana user registration. Illinois has recently proposed making it illegal for registered medical marijuana users to own firearms. It seems naive to think that the state databases aren’t being shared, or won’t eventually be shared with federal agencies.


110 posted on 03/24/2014 9:24:01 PM PDT by robertronz
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