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These are the right of right, conservative Representatives. Their votes could never be considered "pandering."
1 posted on 09/28/2011 7:08:28 AM PDT by hocndoc
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To: hocndoc; shield

The list of conservatives who voted for 1403 have not become less conservative. The legislation fits Texas’ needs due to the hole the Feds have dug for us.


2 posted on 09/28/2011 7:14:11 AM PDT by hocndoc (http://WingRight.org I'm not afraid to use my mustard seed. 2 Control the border, Patrol the border!)
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Some other history for the thread and topic.

State Actions

In June 2001, Texas (HB1403) was the first state to pass legislation allowing in-state tuition for immigrant students, followed by California (AB540), Utah (HB144), and New York (SB7784) in 2001-2002; Washington (HB1079), Oklahoma (SB596) and Illinois (HB60) in 2003; Kansas (HB2145) in 2004; New Mexico (SB582) in 2005; Nebraska (LB239) in 2006; Wisconsin (A75) in 2009; Maryland (S167/H470) and Connecticut (H6390) in 2011. The state laws permit these students to become eligible for in-state tuition if they graduate from state high schools, have two to three years residence in the state, and apply to a state college or university. The student may be required to sign an affidavit promising to seek legal immigration status.  These requirements for unauthorized immigrant students are stricter than the residency requirements for out-of-state students to gain in-state tuition.

In 2008, Oklahoma passed HB 1804 which ended its in-state tuition benefit, including financial aid, for students without lawful presence in the United States. The Act allows the Oklahoma State Regents to enroll a student in higher education institutions permitted that they meet special requirements.  

States that have barred unauthorized immigrant students from in-state tuition benefits include Arizona (Proposition 300, 2006), Colorado (HB 1023, 2006), Georgia (SB 492, 2008), South Carolina (HB4400, 2008), and Indiana (H 1402, 2011). 


3 posted on 09/28/2011 7:15:21 AM PDT by deport
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To: hocndoc

The idiot author of this piece neglects to mention that the Republican legislators flipped because we the Texas voters fired a lot of the RINOs and indeed a lot of the Democrats who were for this and scared the crap out of the remainder.


5 posted on 09/28/2011 7:15:53 AM PDT by MrEdd (Heck? Geewhiz Cripes, thats the place where people who don't believe in Gosh think they aint going.)
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To: hocndoc
agree to apply for permanent residency when eligible

In other words, agree to apply for the AMNESTY.

It is true that the Texas Power Elite, LBJ/Rove/Bush/Perry have pushed for Amnesty for a number of years. That DOES NOT make it a good idea.

6 posted on 09/28/2011 7:16:25 AM PDT by iowamark (Rick Perry says I'm heartless.)
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The Texas Tribune Progressive Ties

Rosenthal Alves – Texas Tribune, UT Establishment, and Leftist donors

http://www.agendawise.com/2011/04/rosenthal-alves-texas-tribune-ut-establishment-and-leftist-donors/

See the George Soros connection-


7 posted on 09/28/2011 7:17:35 AM PDT by Texas Fossil (Government, even in its best state is but a necessary evil; in its worst state an intolerable one)
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The Truth about this issue is finally starting to come out, thank God we live in the information age.

Go Perry!


8 posted on 09/28/2011 7:17:48 AM PDT by TexasFreeper2009 (Obama = Epic Fail)
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Well, why didn't he say so?

Why accuse the very people whose votes he seeks of having no heart?

Is it our fault that we are repulsed by a pollutician who not only dodges a legitimate question but then turns around and paints us as hateful?

9 posted on 09/28/2011 7:19:28 AM PDT by Texas Eagle (If it wasn't for double-standards, Liberals would have no standards at all -- Texas Eagle)
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10 posted on 09/28/2011 7:20:01 AM PDT by shield (Rev 2:9 Woe unto those who say they are Judahites and are not, but are of the syna GOG ue of Satan.)
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Its not really Perry's primary opponents who are swinging at him, its the primary voters.

We don't like goodies for illegals; never have.

12 posted on 09/28/2011 7:20:58 AM PDT by skeeter
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Back in 2001, Perry’s support for this legislation was fully within the mainstream of the Texas Republican Party, and in many (though not all) respects of the national Republican Party as well. Ten years later, what is considered mainstream within the GOP nationally (as well as within the Texas GOP) clearly has changed, with a sharp move to the right within the party on the topic of immigration.

I'd say that is little more than spin of the real situation concerning illegal aliens. What has happened is that the issue has gone from one most of the pubic knew little about to one that became one of the most contentious issues of the day.

The public learned gradually that many politicians entrusted with enforcing immigration law had been deliberately ignoring the law and pursuing some alternate agenda they never bothered to inform the public about. Once the public began to learn of this deceit, particularly during GWB's attempts to grant amnesty to millions of illegal aliens, the public became involved.

It has been a matter of the public learning what deceitful politicians had been doing, or not doing, politicians such as both Bushes, Ted Kennedy, John McCain, Slick Willie, Obama and Rick Perry and many others less well known. And then these same politicians whose negligence caused the problem offer 'solutions' such as amnesty for all illegals (buying future votes and present cheap labor) and assorted Dream Acts and other shameless pandering to ethnic groups.

When the voters know of such pandering, they oppose it by large margins.

14 posted on 09/28/2011 7:21:28 AM PDT by Will88
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More damage control. The Reps in the Texas legislature are trying to overturn the law. And if a vote were taken by the people of Texas in a referendum today, in-state tuition for illegals would be defeated. Illegal aliens cost the taxpayers of Texas an estimated $4.7 billion. In AZ, SC, GA, and CO the state legislatures passed bills specifically banning in-state tuition for illegal aliens.

Perry's Lt Gov doesn't support in-state tuition for illegals. 81% of likely voters oppose granting in-state tuition to illegal aliens in their state, with 12% supporting tuition breaks for illegal aliens (Rasmussen, August 2011). Perry is not only wrong substantively, he is wrong politically.

17 posted on 09/28/2011 7:23:06 AM PDT by kabar
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I know this is about in state tuition but we have a FReeper living on the Texas Mexico border, here is what he told me:

He’s not kidding about the Ranger Interdiction Team. We live in the Valley and from whatever point A is - point B - before they fly the Black Hawks low over the river is our roof. Perry and his team are all that stands between us and being over run by the cartels, and we surely appreciate that.

23 posted on 09/28/2011 7:31:44 AM PDT by shield (Rev 2:9 Woe unto those who say they are Judahites and are not, but are of the syna GOG ue of Satan.)
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Well I guess that makes us “Heartless” conservatives just plain wrong!

The votes of a bunch of “conservative” GOP congress people must mean by extension, that that is the conservative position, right?


27 posted on 09/28/2011 7:34:04 AM PDT by SoConPubbie
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Policies that may make sense for a border state trying to deal with a crisis created by federal unwillingness to enforce its laws may not make sense as federal policies.

I’m unclear why Perry felt it necessary to defend this policy with the implication that it would be appropriate for the nation as a whole.

States are supposed to do things that work just for them. That’s the whole point of federalism.


31 posted on 09/28/2011 7:38:56 AM PDT by Sherman Logan
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Is it groundhog day again?


34 posted on 09/28/2011 7:42:18 AM PDT by listenhillary (Look your representatives in the eye and ask if they intend to pay off the debt. They will look away)
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In-State Tuition Debate Isn't About In-State Tuition (It's about AMNESTY)
37 posted on 09/28/2011 7:46:46 AM PDT by Do Not Make Fun Of His Ears (Bush called us "vigilantes." Perry calls us "heartless.")
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The coyote that Perry shot would still be alive if he had been driving a van full of wet Mexicans.


39 posted on 09/28/2011 7:48:49 AM PDT by NeverForgetBataan (To the German Commander: ..........................NUTS !)
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in 2001, Perry was joined by virtually the entire Republican membership of the Texas Legislature in supporting legislation allowing undocumented immigrants who meet a series of requirements (e.g., be a Texas high school graduate, a Texas resident, and agree to apply for permanent residency when eligible) to pay in-state tuition at Texas public institutions of higher education.

America: A Nation Of Laws

America: A Nation Of Scofflaws

Federal Law Title 8, Chapter 14, Sec. 1623 states:

“an alien who is not lawfully present in the United States shall not be eligible on the basis of residence within a State... for any postsecondary education benefit unless a citizen or national of the United States is eligible for such a benefit.”


47 posted on 09/28/2011 8:26:05 AM PDT by Iron Munro (Now days calling someone a racist is like telling them there's a crumb on their chin)
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Illegal immigration is directly tied to our fiscal budget dilemma as well as the massive national unemployment we now are experiencing . What to do with the illegals problem is a paramount issue just like the debt . All GOPers must first agree to STOP the flow at the border and then to give notice to all illegals to register their status or face deportation . Stop the entitlements for them and all other cookies ,, all employers must use E-Verify and report social security fraud . Try to remember ,, for what ever reason ,, these people broke into your home ,, took up permanent residency ,, get free handouts , medical care , schooling , college tuition’s , etc at the home owners expense ,,,, you !!!! Then they are allowed to vote to keep the very idiot politicians who made this all possible for them . . .

That’s the REAL problem with candidates like Perry who are soft on illegal immigration and many Tea Party folks have had ENOUGH already !!! If you want to develop a voting base start with the American tax payer .


61 posted on 09/28/2011 10:17:07 AM PDT by Lionheartusa1 (-: Socialism is the equal distribution of misery :-)
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