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Harris Poll: Romney, Ron Paul Best Obama
Newsmax ^ | 9/27/11 | Greg MdDonald

Posted on 09/27/2011 7:35:44 AM PDT by traviskicks

Mitt Romney stands the best chance among Republican presidential contenders of beating President Barack Obama in next year’s election, according to a new Harris Interactive poll released Tuesday.

The former Massachusetts governor also was the favored GOP candidate among independent voters, with Texas Rep. Ron Paul following close behind, according to the online survey of 2,462 adults taken in mid-September.

The news was also good for Paul when pitted against Obama in a head-to-head matchup.

While survey participants gave Romney a 53 percent to 47 percent edge over Obama in a general election race, they said Paul could also beat Obama by 51 percent to 49 percent.

When matched up against other Republican candidates however, Obama beats them all, including Texas Gov. Rick Perry by 51 percent to 49 percent.

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This article came out today, orginally at Huffington Post:

Dr. Ron Paul's 11-Point Plan That Could Save America
1 posted on 09/27/2011 7:35:47 AM PDT by traviskicks
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To: traviskicks
Harris Interactive poll released Tuesday.

Before anyone gets too giddy, it is an on line poll.

2 posted on 09/27/2011 7:39:18 AM PDT by MNJohnnie (Giving more money to DC to fix the Debt is like giving free drugs to addicts think it will cure them)
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Obama beat them all..What a crock!We could put Howdy Doody up against the moron and Howdy would win..
3 posted on 09/27/2011 7:39:53 AM PDT by PLD
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Obama beat them all..What a crock!We could put Howdy Doody up against the moron and Howdy would win..
4 posted on 09/27/2011 7:40:06 AM PDT by PLD
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To: traviskicks
"Dr. Ron Paul's 11-Point Plan That Could Save America"

Posted at Huffington Post you say?

L.O.L.

Ariana can keep it.
5 posted on 09/27/2011 7:40:30 AM PDT by Christian Engineer Mass (25ish Cambridge MA grad student. Many conservative Christians my age out there? __ Click my name)
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To: traviskicks

Screw all these polls!....It’s to early!


6 posted on 09/27/2011 7:43:45 AM PDT by AngelesCrestHighway
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To: traviskicks

You see once again where the MSM is trying to pick the Republican candidate.


7 posted on 09/27/2011 7:46:56 AM PDT by Citizen Tom Paine (An old sailor sends)
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To: traviskicks

I would prefer Herman Cain over Romney but if Romney has the best chance getting this Obamanation out of the WH then I’m all for it. I literally get naseous just thinking of this fool doing a 2nd term. Can you imagine it happening for real?


8 posted on 09/27/2011 7:47:26 AM PDT by GrandJediMasterYoda (Mark Halperin - Learned the hard way what happens when you speak the truth on PMSNBC.)
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To: Christian Engineer Mass

So you dont have to hold your nose and go there to read it:
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Have Americans read Dr. Ron Paul’s written plan for the country? Are Americans ready to upset the apple cart in a controlled and methodical way for the betterment of the greater good? The main source I am referencing here is Dr. Ron Paul’s website, so that we can debate his priorities and proposed approaches. I have paraphrased items from his site; however, I encourage the reader to thoroughly review all the links.

Here is Dr. Ron Paul’s 11-point plan:

11. Energy Independence: Eliminate the federal gas tax of $0.18 per gallon and eliminate the EPA, allowing prosecution of polluters to answer to citizens, not Washington, and allowing coal, oil, nuclear and other forms of energy to be safely explored.

10. Education: Dr. Paul would like to see the U.S. Department of Education return its powers to the states and parents. He proposes and intends to give parents a $5,000 tax credit per child for kids K-12 to help with all the costs of education. He is supportive of home-schooling and will veto legislation that interferes with parents choosing to home-school their children.

9. Workers’ Rights: Dr. Ron Paul is against forcing workers to join unions and pay dues if they do not want to, citing the $8 billion that union leaders bring in annually that is often given to political candidates. He does not want workers forced to belong to unions or to be under union control against their will.

8. Protect Gun Rights: Protecting the right of Americans to keep and bear arms. Here is an example of a town that required each head of household to own a gun. This policy resulted in decreased crime.

7. Heath Care: Dr. Ron Paul will repeal Obamacare, allow for tax credits and deductions for all medical expenses and not allow money that belongs in Medicare or Medicaid to be misused for other purposes. He will protect the privacy of American citizens’ medical records from the federal government, remove barriers for all citizens to have HSAs and keep the FDA out of vitamins and alternative treatments. Also, he wants to provide payroll deductions for terminal illnesses and caregivers.

6. Pro-Life Issue: Here is the one fact all Americans need to know. Dr. Paul is the only Republican candidate who has said, “So while Roe v. Wade is invalid, a federal law banning abortion across all 50 states would be equally invalid.” Abortion is one of the most divisive issues and may always be a divisive issue as long as Americans have freedom of religion and the right to be, think and feel differently. Dr. Ron Paul may be personally pro-life; however, his voting record indicates that, even if a bill attempting to make abortion illegal federally in the U.S. were passed by the House and Senate, Dr. Paul would veto the bill as unconstitutional. Which other Republican candidate has a track record to indicate that? Would Dr. Paul look to put pro-life judges on the Supreme Court bench? Probably as much as past Republican presidents. The current Democratic President has recently placed two women on the Supreme Court, and new Justices are appointed only when a Justice dies or retires. Six Republican Presidential candidates have already signed the Susan B. Anthony List 2012. Dr. Ron Paul is the safest Republican candidate because he would veto anti-abortion bills at the federal level and support states that chose to protect women’s reproductive rights. His other strong Constitution-based reforms outweigh the small risk that Roe v. Wade would be overturned during his term, returning the power to the states, who can then protect women’s reproductive rights, as Vermont has. Would he truly respect the states’ rights on this, considering his strong personal stand? Many progressive states have anti-abortion laws on their books that are not enforceable due to Roe v. Wade. So far, Dr. Paul has written bills to make it possible for states to make abortion illegal in the Sanctity of Life bill. He wrote the We the People Act, which, if passed, would render Roe v. Wade invalid and return powers to the states. He signed the Susan B. Anthony list, which describes federally defunding all abortions and Planned Parenthood. If Dr. Paul can fix the economic mess, is the slight chance that Roe v. Wade would be rendered invalid something Americans are willing risk for the betterment of the country in many other important areas? We will not ever go back to a time before birth control, morning-after pills, RU 486, the Internet and other advancements. Certain states, even with Roe v. Wade, are extremely restrictive.

5. Immigration: In Dr. Paul’s own words:

Immigration reform should start with improving our border protection, yet it was reported last week that the federal government has approved the recruitment of 120 of our best trained Border Patrol agents to go to Iraq to train Iraqis how to better defend their borders! This comes at a time when the National Guard troops participating in Operation Jump Start are being removed from border protection duties in Arizona, New Mexico, and Texas and preparing to deploy to Iraq and Afghanistan! It is an outrage and it will result in our borders being more vulnerable to illegal entry, including by terrorists.

Also, we need to take serious steps to prevent terrorists from gaining easy access to targets on our soil. Quite alarmingly, even with the knowledge that the 19 terrorist hijackers entered our country legally, and that 15 of them were from Saudi Arabia , student visas from terrorist sponsoring countries are still far too easily obtained. In a baffling move President Bush struck a deal with Saudi King Abdullah in 2005 to allow 21,000 more Saudi young men into the US on student Visas. Of course, not all students from terror sponsoring countries are terrorists, but I place a higher premium on the security of the American people than the convenience of citizens of hostile countries. We should not be making the goals of would-be terrorists easier to accomplish, but rather should be vigilant about defending against enemies at every turn. They should not be slipping through our doors so easily, using our immigration laws against us, and that is why I proposed the Terror Immigration Elimination Act (HR 3217) to toughen standards for VISAS from countries on the State Department’s list of terrorist sponsoring countries in addition to Saudi Arabia . Just as you decide who to invite to a dinner party in your home, we should be in charge of who we allow in this country, without apology.

Also:

Both the Bush administration and congressional leadership have promised to spend the next two months addressing national security issues. But real national security cannot be achieved unless and until our borders are physically secured. It’s as simple as that. All the talk about fighting terror and making America safer is meaningless without border security. It makes no sense to seek terrorists abroad if our own front door is left unlocked.

In short, Dr. Paul’s plan is to secure the border, end amnesty, abolish welfare to illegal immigrants, end birthright citizenship and protect lawful immigrants.

4. National Defense: Dr. Paul’s approach is simple. He believes in a strong national defense and is against militarism — in other words, protect the U.S. but do not police the world and require congressional approval before declaring war. The last time the U.S. formally declared war was World War II in 1941. Dr. Paul would bring the troops home to protect America. Dr. Paul said he would get the troops home as soon as the ships would get here. He is the largest recipient of donations from soldiers in the U.S. military, getting 71 percent of all military donations.

3. Taxes: Dr. Paul would support an amendment to the U.S. Constitution that abolishes income and death taxes. Ideally, he’d like to close the IRS. He would seek to repeal capital gains taxes and reduce then abolish taxes on Social Security. Before a flat or fair tax would be implemented, Dr. Paul would ensure that the 16th Amendment, which made income taxation legal, would be repealed so we don’t end up with both.

2. End the Fed: The Fed was created in a time of turmoil and seems similar to the Patriot Act in that it was done from a position of hysteria, not logical and rational decision-making. The U.S. Constitution is considered such a well thought-through document as it was drafted in a time of peace rather than as a reaction to a panic. Documents and policies that are reviewed and seen in the light of day by calm, rational people tend to be better for the long-term wellness of the people than policies passed quickly in an emotional, reactive and hurried manner. Dr. Paul equates the Fed with deeply-in-debt parents sending their teenagers out with credit cards and blank checks. Dr. Paul’s ultimate goal would be to see the Fed end, yet he would not act rashly. What his focus would be is a full and complete audit of the Fed, as Congress is currently unable to audit the Fed. Dr. Paul would commit to passing legislation that requires transparency and accountability from the Fed. At this time, the Fed can keep secret to whom they are lending trillions of taxpayers’ dollars. If the Fed is handling American money responsibly, for what reason would they refuse to open their books? We American citizens are all subject to audits from the IRS, but the U.S. central bank is not? Please take three minutes to watch this amazing video of Bernie Sanders asking Ben Bernanke, where $2.2 trillion of taxpayer money is. Bernanke will not answer the question and will not disclose where $2.2 trillion went, and he doesn’t have to.

1. Economy: Dr. Paul’s plan is to audit the Fed, veto any unbalanced budget and refuse to raise the debt ceiling. He is also committed to getting rid of self-dealing and corruption in D.C. Additionally, he will eliminate income taxes, capital gains taxes and death taxes. It would be a breath of fresh air to have the Fed audited and wasteful government spending eliminated, and to actually be able to keep more of the money we make. America’s debt did not come out of nowhere. In 2008, the U.S. had spent $3 trillion on the war in Iraq. The current costs are at $3.2 to $4 trillion. How much did we vote to increase the debt ceiling? We raised the $14.3-trillion debt ceiling by $2.4 trillion, to $16.7 trillion on Aug. 2, 2011. Here is a great 10-minute video with Dr. Paul clearly stating how, if elected president in 2012, he would balance the budget in one year.

In this discussion, I request that emotional reactions and sarcasm be set aside. The goal is an accurate, clear and truthful dialogue. We are blessed with a group of knowledgeable Americans making comments here. What I want to suggest is that we discuss what is best for the greater good for our country, not just for ourselves.

Any presidential choice we make involves a risk. Is he lying and manipulating to win the election, or is he honest? Will she serve American citizens ethically and honorably as president? The U.S. Constitution was created to unite the states in our country in certain crucial areas, like national defense, while allowing states their autonomy and uniqueness. In the spirit of Mr. Smith Goes to Washington, good character is the most essential quality to bring to our government. Dr. Paul combines solid character and backbone with seasoned wisdom and experience. He has not compromised the values and principles that America holds dear.

If you are not going to register as a Republican and vote for Dr. Ron Paul in the primary, who do you think is better, and for what reasons? Don’t state what you dislike about Dr. Paul’s plan. It is easy to shoot someone’s ideas down.


9 posted on 09/27/2011 7:48:39 AM PDT by traviskicks (http://www.neoperspectives.com/Ron_Paul_2008.htm)
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In less than a year, "Ron Paul" will be on his way to retirement, and America will be a much better place, rid of spamming basement-boys with a matrix of computers participating in every online poll imaginable.

Ron Paul will have a future as a guest on MSNBC shows in between his appearances on the Alex Jones show.

10 posted on 09/27/2011 7:49:43 AM PDT by lormand (A Government who robs Peter to pay Paul, will always have the support of Paul)
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To: GrandJediMasterYoda
If Obama wins a second term, that could mean his Chicago pal Deval Patrick gets elected President in 2016. And reelected in 2020. If the GOP can't stop this train wreck in 2012 we are doomed.
11 posted on 09/27/2011 7:53:33 AM PDT by ConservativeStatement (Obama "acted stupidly.")
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To: traviskicks

In reality Ron Paul is one of the few Republican candidates that Obama actually could beat.


12 posted on 09/27/2011 7:58:40 AM PDT by traderrob6
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“We could put Howdy Doody up against the moron and Howdy would win..”

...at this point, Doody alone would win.


13 posted on 09/27/2011 7:58:44 AM PDT by albie
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To: traviskicks
This was taken before Herman Cain's recent showing and win of the Florida Straw poll.

The latest Zogby poll has Cain leading the GOP field at 28%:

Latest Zogby GOP Poll:

Cain: 28% Perry 18% Romney 17% Paul 11% Gingrich 6% Bachman 4% Santorum 2% Johnson 1%

Sarah will be second tier until the day she enters the race...then watch what happens.


SARAH PALLIN FOR TRADITIONAL AMERICAN VALUES IN 2012

In the mean time, Cain is climbing...and deservedly so, IMHO. If Sarah does not get in, he will have my vote over the others at this point.

If Sarah does get in, she has my vote and we will see what happens through the primaries. I think an unbeatable ticket would be:

Palin/Cain or vice versa if it went that way.

Also:

Cain/West

If it is Cain, and Sarah does not get in...here's my vote for a slogan and poster:


HERMAN CAIN FOR A RETURN TO A STRONG AMERICA

14 posted on 09/27/2011 8:01:41 AM PDT by Jeff Head (Liberty is not free. Never has been, never will be. (www.dragonsfuryseries.com))
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To: traviskicks; BlackElk; Allegra; mnehring; RaceBannon; NObama
"4. National Defense: Dr. Paul’s approach is simple. He believes in a strong national defense and is against militarism — in other words, protect the U.S. but do not police the world and require congressional approval before declaring war. The last time the U.S. formally declared war was World War II in 1941. Dr. Paul would bring the troops home to protect America. Dr. Paul said he would get the troops home as soon as the ships would get here. He is the largest recipient of donations from soldiers in the U.S. military, getting 71 percent of all military donations."

The above propaganda contradicts this....

"There's nobody in this world that could possibly attack us today... we could defend this country with a few good submarines. If anybody dared touch us we could wipe any country off of the face of the earth within hours. And here we are, so intimidated and so insecure and we're acting like such bullies that we have to attack third-world nations that have no military and have no weapons."
- Ron Paul, October 11, 2007 interview with The Washington Post

You Ron Paul drones are desparate to paint him as strong on defense, but the facts are miles apart from what you creepy, fawning lemmings portray him as. You drones remind me of your typical liberal. You latch onto some idol, e.g., King George, and don't let go no matter the fatal flaws of that candidate. No man is worthy of that kind of worship, yet Ron Paul drones are as committed as a jihadist are to their twisted faith.

15 posted on 09/27/2011 8:03:33 AM PDT by lormand (A Government who robs Peter to pay Paul, will always have the support of Paul)
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"We could put Howdy Doody up against the moron and Howdy would win."

We could put Howdy Doody up against the muslim and Doody would win.
16 posted on 09/27/2011 8:03:36 AM PDT by Darteaus94025
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To: traviskicks

Online poll are worth as much as the paper they are written on. You might as well do a popcorn poll.


17 posted on 09/27/2011 8:04:45 AM PDT by svcw (It is who I am, it is what I do.)
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To: traderrob6
In reality Ron Paul is one of the few Republican candidates that Obama actually could beat.

Thats not what multiple polls say at present (for what they are worth). The reason being is that Paul attracts independents and even some democrats, somewhat odd considering his platforms included "conservative" stances such as abolishing the IRS, FDA, EPA etc... and a traditional conservative foreign policy.
18 posted on 09/27/2011 8:05:17 AM PDT by traviskicks (http://www.neoperspectives.com/Ron_Paul_2008.htm)
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To: Jeff Head

Love it, Jeff. Oh, BTW, How are you feeling?


19 posted on 09/27/2011 8:16:33 AM PDT by Mountain Mary (I'll take a Godfathers pizza with the works!)
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To: GrandJediMasterYoda

Exactly. I would vote for Son of sam over bama at this point.


20 posted on 09/27/2011 8:17:48 AM PDT by GlockThe Vote (The Obama Adminstration: The flash mob who wonÂ’t leave.)
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