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FOCUS: Europeans trying to beat U.S. for Japan's lucrative fighter contract
The Mainichi Daily News, Japan ^ | September 27, 2011

Posted on 09/26/2011 10:02:08 PM PDT by sukhoi-30mki

FOCUS: Europeans trying to beat U.S. for Japan's lucrative fighter contract

LONDON (Kyodo) -- Over the next few months, a consortium of European manufacturers is hoping to persuade the Japanese government to place a multibillion dollar order for the Eurofighter Typhoon as the country's next mainstay fighter aircraft.

But also in the running are the F-35 Lightning II fighter, or Joint Strike Fighter, whose development is led by U.S. aircraft maker Lockheed Martin Corp., and the F/A-18 Super Hornet designed by McDonnell Douglas, part of Boeing Co. of the Untied States.

Reports from Japan suggest that the stealthy F-35 is the front-runner but there are concerns over the cost and whether the fighters -- which will replace the aging F-4 Phantoms and F-15 Eagles -- can be manufactured by 2017.

These doubts have worked to the advantage of the European consortium which is pushing the Eurofighter -- whose costs and performance are known -- as the ideal next-generation fighter for Japan.

The Europeans, however, will have to work hard before a final decision is made at the end of the year.

This is because the traditionally strong alliance between Tokyo and Washington has meant that Japan has nearly always purchased its military hardware from the United States.

But that relationship was somewhat strained when the United States decided in 2007 to continue a ban on exporting the highly agile and stealthy F-22 Raptor to Japan, to prevent military secrets being leaked.

Tony Ennis, president of the Northeast Asia region for BAE Systems PLC, one of the European makers in the consortium, believes the Eurofighter is the best air defense fighter on offer -- ideal for intercepting aircraft from other countries which are making regular incursions into Japanese airspace.

In an interview with Kyodo News at a recent defense fair in London, Ennis said, "Without a shadow of a doubt, the aeroplane which has the capabilities closest to the F-22 is the Eurofighter Typhoon."

"It is the fastest aeroplane available, it can engage at the highest altitudes -- somewhat like the F-22 -- and is the most capable air defense fighter available on the market today," he said.

He admitted the F-35 is "optimized" for strike capabilities but both aircraft have air defense and strike roles.

Ennis believes the best solution for Japan is to buy the Eurofighter for its immediate air defense needs and, later on, purchase the F-35 when the program is tried and tested to replace the F-2s.

He said the F/A-18 will be cheaper but is not as technologically advanced as the Eurofighter.

A big selling point for the Eurofighter is that London-based BAE Systems will allow the aircraft to be manufactured in Japan. Tokyo will also be able to have its own weapons systems on the fighters and it is interoperable with U.S. forces.

The bids have now been submitted and all three contenders will be on tenterhooks waiting for the result over the next couple of months.

Ennis said that while the U.S.-Japan relationship is important, "We live in hope that Japan is actually going to make a decision based on capabilities and requirements, and not on politics."

John Hemmings, a research analyst at the Royal United Services Institute for Defence and Security Studies in London, said, "The chances of the BAE Systems' bid winning are around 50 percent."

"Japanese and U.S. officials in the know have assured me that this is one of the most realistic bids made by a non-American defense contractor in Japan's fighter industry ever."

Hemmings said that the F-35 is suffering from price, production and technical drawbacks but it is favored by Japan's Air Self-Defense Force.

He added the U.S.-Japan alliance remains an important factor in the deal, noting the perception in Tokyo that sometimes European governments downplay the threat from China.

Craig Caffrey, IHS Jane's aviation analyst, says decision-makers will take many factors into account and therefore it is difficult to predict the winner.

"The Lockheed Martin platform certainly holds a number of potential advantages over its competitors...but the Eurofighter's credentials as a true air superiority fighter perhaps make the aircraft the most natural fit with the ASDF's doctrine," Caffrey writes on his company's website.

"The Super Hornet...offers the lowest-cost, lowest-risk solution for a program that appears to be looking for an interim solution," he states.

BAE Systems is a major design and production partner in the Eurofighter consortium which also includes the German-French EADS NV and Italy's Finmeccanica SpA.

The Eurofighter, which made its maiden flight in 1994, is currently in service with Germany, Italy, Spain, Britain, Austria and Saudi Arabia.

(Mainichi Japan) September 27, 2011


TOPICS: Foreign Affairs; Germany; Japan; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: aerospace; eads; eurofighter; japan

1 posted on 09/26/2011 10:02:18 PM PDT by sukhoi-30mki
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To: sukhoi-30mki

That photo of the Eurofighter is not flattering at all.

The Japanese will go American. IMO


2 posted on 09/26/2011 10:04:30 PM PDT by unkus (Silence Is Consent)
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To: unkus

The Typhoon is impressive, but is it true that there is a block of cement somewhere on this aircraft where a canon was supposed to be?


3 posted on 09/26/2011 10:08:16 PM PDT by Carbonsteel
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To: sukhoi-30mki

Eurofighter Typhoon? Well I know nothing about it but it doesn’t sound very intimidating.


4 posted on 09/26/2011 10:21:09 PM PDT by Impy (Don't call me red.)
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To: sukhoi-30mki

Is this the plane they started building by committee in something like 1980?


5 posted on 09/26/2011 11:25:27 PM PDT by headstamp 2 (Time to move forward not to the center.)
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To: sukhoi-30mki
With their long history with the F-15J, their logical choice would be the F-15SE, but the Japanese don't feel it is "new" enough.


6 posted on 09/27/2011 2:55:16 AM PDT by Yo-Yo (Is the /sarc tag really necessary?)
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To: Yo-Yo

I think the issue with the F-15 is that it offers fewer new industrial/technology opportunities than the others.


7 posted on 09/27/2011 3:22:35 AM PDT by sukhoi-30mki
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To: Carbonsteel

That was a only proposal by the Brits, who have since retained the cannon.


8 posted on 09/27/2011 3:23:49 AM PDT by sukhoi-30mki
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To: sukhoi-30mki

“Europeans trying to beat U.S. for Japan’s lucrative fighter contract”

Europeans trying to beat U.S.to bankruptcy court.


9 posted on 09/27/2011 3:54:56 AM PDT by RoadTest (Organized religion is no substitute for the relationship the living God wants with you.)
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To: sukhoi-30mki
He said the F/A-18 will be cheaper but is not as technologically advanced as the Eurofighter.

Yeah, not so much. Get back to me when the EF has an actual operating and integrated AESA, not a drawing on paper and a compelling storyline which has never shot down anything. More technologically advanced my butt.

10 posted on 09/27/2011 5:01:45 AM PDT by liberty_lvr (Drill Gaia like a 3 am prom date)
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To: unkus
That photo of the Eurofighter is not flattering at all.

It's meant to be the replacement for the F-4 Phantom II

11 posted on 09/27/2011 7:25:43 AM PDT by Oztrich Boy (New gets old. Steampunk is always cool)
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To: liberty_lvr
More technologically advanced my butt.

Are you suggesting there may be politics involved. Surely not on matters of defense.

12 posted on 09/27/2011 11:59:40 AM PDT by Mind-numbed Robot
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To: Oztrich Boy

That photo of the Eurofighter is not flattering at all.
It’s meant to be the replacement for the F-4 Phantom II


They must simply be spending the money to keep some manufacturers in business and people employed. That plane doesn’t seem to be a serious platform compared to what the russians or chinese must have.


13 posted on 09/27/2011 7:14:22 PM PDT by unkus (Silence Is Consent)
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To: unkus

Looks can be very deceiving; It’s avionics, agility and weapons capability make it probably the best fighter in the world after the F-22.


14 posted on 09/27/2011 8:00:54 PM PDT by sukhoi-30mki
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To: liberty_lvr

The kinematics and planned upgrades to the Eurofighter make it more potent than most of it’s rivals. About not shooting down anything, there have been few opportunities to do that since the Israeli-Syria war of the 80s.


15 posted on 09/27/2011 8:04:11 PM PDT by sukhoi-30mki
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To: sukhoi-30mki

Looks can be very deceiving; It’s avionics, agility and weapons capability make it probably the best fighter in the world after the F-22.


Thanks for that, sukoi———.
People like me must rely on guys like you in these matters.


16 posted on 09/27/2011 8:59:12 PM PDT by unkus (Silence Is Consent)
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