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Geithner Plan for Europe is last chance to avoid global catastrophe
the Telegraph (UK) ^ | 25 September 2011 | Ambrose Evans-Pritchard

Posted on 09/25/2011 1:53:55 PM PDT by Comparative Advantage

Europe, the G20, and the global authorities have one last chance to contain the EMU debt crisis with a nuclear solution or abdicate responsibility and watch as the world slides into depression, endangering the benign but fragile order that has taken shape over the last three decades.

The threat of cascading default, bank runs, and catastrophic risk must be taken off the table," said US Treasury Secretary Tim Geithner over the weekend.

"Sovereign and banking stresses in Europe are the most serious risk now confronting the world economy. Decisions cannot wait until the crisis gets more severe."

Euroland's dysfunctional arrangements are no longer a local affair. As the European Central Bank's Jean-Claude Trichet said in Washington, EMU is at the epicentre of a global sovereign debt crisis that risks engulfing all, and is more intractable than 2008 because governments themselves are now crippled.

China, India, Brazil and the world's rising powers will not escape lightly this time if leaders let events spiral out of control. European banks have lent $3.4 trillion to emerging markets (BIS data), or three quarters of external loans to these countries.

The International Monetary Fund warned last week that emerging markets face the risk of "sharp reversals" or even a "sudden stop" if there is further spill-over from Europe. This comes at a time when Asia and parts of Latin America are already in the topping phase of a credit boom, one of epic proportions in China where loans have doubled to almost 200pc of GDP over the last five years.

(Excerpt) Read more at telegraph.co.uk ...


TOPICS: Business/Economy; Government; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: emu; eu; eunuchs; geithner; timmy
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1 posted on 09/25/2011 1:53:58 PM PDT by Comparative Advantage
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To: Comparative Advantage

‘splain to me again, the blessings of a “Global Economy”.


2 posted on 09/25/2011 1:57:02 PM PDT by Oatka ("A society of sheep must in time beget a government of wolves." –Bertrand de Jouvenel)
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To: Comparative Advantage
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3 posted on 09/25/2011 1:58:09 PM PDT by Dick Bachert (The 2012 election is coming. Seems we have MORE TRASH TO REMOVE!)
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Geithner Plan for Europe...

Turbo Tax Timmy (T3) is on the case. Sorry Europe!

4 posted on 09/25/2011 1:58:38 PM PDT by FlingWingFlyer (Barry gives them $535 million and they take "the fifth" when asked where it went.)
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To: Comparative Advantage

What utter rubbish.

As if we can turn off Niagara Falls with a mandate from bureaucrats.


5 posted on 09/25/2011 1:58:38 PM PDT by Travis McGee (www.EnemiesForeignAndDomestic.com)
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To: Oatka

Their isn’t one. We are the economy mover. Obama’s Marxism is trying to crush it.


6 posted on 09/25/2011 2:00:03 PM PDT by eyedigress ((Old storm chaser from the west)?)
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To: Comparative Advantage
I cannot imagine anyone with a couple of brain cells paying one bit of attention to anything Geithner has to say about money, banking, or economy.
7 posted on 09/25/2011 2:01:48 PM PDT by Just mythoughts (Luke 17:32 Remember Lot's wife.)
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To: Comparative Advantage

Did Little Timmy check his numbers on Turbo Tax before telling the Europeans how to solve their problems?

(Pot, kettle)


8 posted on 09/25/2011 2:02:47 PM PDT by Rocky (REPEAL IT!)
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To: Oatka
Delaying the day of reckoning just ensures the final collapse will be bigger than if they fixed things now.

"Fixing things now" involves one major step: immediately stop all further credit to European governments, so that spending is limited to what tax revenues are brought in. Fire half the public employees, and tell the other half that they will not be retiring at 50, but more like 65 or 70, and telling current under-70 retirees to report back to work or lose all benefits.

Then machine-gun any rioters that are too upset with this.

9 posted on 09/25/2011 2:03:39 PM PDT by PapaBear3625 (When you've only heard lies your entire life, the truth sounds insane.)
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To: Comparative Advantage

These fools are the problem! They need to get the Hell out of the way and let Capitalism work.


10 posted on 09/25/2011 2:04:26 PM PDT by SatinDoll (NO FOREIGN NATIONALS AS OUR PRESIDENT!)
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To: Comparative Advantage

Since nothing Geithner’s done has helped at all, prepare for the global economic collapse to be even WORSE after he ‘helps.’


11 posted on 09/25/2011 2:06:50 PM PDT by Spktyr (Overwhelmingly superior firepower and the willingness to use it is the only proven peace solution.)
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To: Oatka
Hey G!....


12 posted on 09/25/2011 2:09:05 PM PDT by Dallas59 (President Robert Gibbs 2009-2011)
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To: Comparative Advantage

So tax cheat Gietner who could not figure out turo tax which caused him to not pay his taxes is going to save the world, funny!


13 posted on 09/25/2011 2:10:53 PM PDT by ronnie raygun (t)
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last chance to avoid global catastrophe.

Forgive me for being confused. Can someone tell me which global catastrophe this is the last chance to avoid?

Is it global catastrophe number 482,156, sub-catastrophe D dash 409, section 3? Or is it global catastrophe number 459,112 sub-catastrophe M, section A4?

14 posted on 09/25/2011 2:14:15 PM PDT by C210N (0bama, Making the US safe for Global Marxism)
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... and which last chance for that catastrophe? LC#1343998 (LC=Last Chance), LC#ab739gff, or LC#13232? Its hard to keep up with Cloward-piven crisis, last chances, catastrophes and the like...


15 posted on 09/25/2011 2:16:21 PM PDT by C210N (0bama, Making the US safe for Global Marxism)
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To: ronnie raygun
I know reading the article is against the rules, but the article does not actually match the headline:

Even if the €2 trillion "Geithner Plan" does get off the ground, it can do no more than buy time - not to be sneezed at, for sure. The root of the euro crisis is a 30pc intra-EMU currency misalignment between North and South. That structural flaw cannot be solved with debt guarantees or bank rescues.

16 posted on 09/25/2011 2:16:50 PM PDT by Borough Park
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"Sorry Deutschland. History has conspired against you, again. You must sign away €2 trillion, and debauch your central bank, and accept 5pc inflation, or be blamed for Götterdämmerung. It is not fair but that is what monetary union always meant. Didn't they tell you?

This crap won't fly in Germany. The German people will unelect any coalition that votes for it and will eventually negate it...even if the current government signs on.

Germany has been burdened with these long, expensive payouts in the past...and it always ended badly.

They will not take the screwing this time.

17 posted on 09/25/2011 2:18:10 PM PDT by Mariner (War Criminal #18)
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To: Comparative Advantage

Basically, there are only two routes out of this situation: Japan or Iceland.

Iceland involves a quick collapse of the economy, where those who hold bad loans simply lose out whatever it is they hold. Very painful.

Japan involves a long and drawn out process, where the bad money slowly gets filtered out over a period of time. One method of doing this would be, as bonds mature, to sell more bonds, but at lower interest rates than previous bonds.


18 posted on 09/25/2011 2:19:18 PM PDT by Jonty30
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To: Comparative Advantage

Will he nudge them faster on their current course just as he has been doing to us?


19 posted on 09/25/2011 2:20:37 PM PDT by MtnClimber (Obama unemployment equals dependence on government.)
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Together they hold $10 trillion in foreign bonds. If they agreed to rotate just 4pc of these holdings ($400bn) into Spanish, Italian, and Belgian debt over the next two years, they could offer a soothing balm.

The sticking point is that there is nothing in place that would stop the PIGS from running up another tab.

They had some definitions in place for admission to the Euro but those were almost universally ignored.

20 posted on 09/25/2011 2:21:54 PM PDT by glorgau
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