Posted on 09/25/2011 10:37:58 AM PDT by Clairity
In this week's GOP Presidential debate, Governor Mitt Romney and Senator Rick Santorum both repeated untruths about Governor Rick Perry's immigration position. It is time to set the record straight.
First let me say, I've not endorsed a candidate and though I've predicted a Perry win in 2012, it is not based on a personal desire, but rather the assessment of all the data that I believe the general election race will be dependent on. I did the same thing in 2006, predicting a Barack Obama win, but by no means endorsing his candidacy.
Second let me also say, this week's debate performance by Governor Rick Perry was bizarre and seemed to run out of complete steam in the final thirty minutes. In fact I was so curious as to the Governor's performance down the stretch I inquired to the Perry campaign to see if the Governor had taken ill, or had some other medical issue arise in the final half hour.
But on Thursday evening it did become clear that the GOP opponents intend to rhetorically bloody Governor Perry as best they can until they begin to be eliminated from the race.
In the debate, Chris Wallace asked a direct question to Mitt Romney regarding the in-state tuition rates of children who live in the state, but happen to have parents who came here illegally.
Mitt Romney replied, "I don't see how it is that a state like Texas--to go to the University of Texas--if you're an illegal alien--you get an in-state tuition discount. D'you know how much that is? It's twenty-two thousand dollars a year. Four years of college you're almost a hundred thousand dollar discount if you're an illegal alien--if you go to the University of Texas. If you're a United States citizen, from any one of the other forty-nine states, you have to pay a hundred thousand dollars more. That doesn't make sense to me. And that kind of magnet, draws people into this country, to get that education, to get that kind of hundred thousand dollar break, it makes no sense..."
I was disappointed that Chris Wallace didn't stop him and make him answer the question he had actually asked him.
Maybe Mitt Romney doesn't realize that many children of illegal aliens aren't illegals themselves. And as long as birth-rite citizenship is the law, anchor babies are protected under the law with equal benefits to all other American citizens.
Maybe Mitt Romney doesn't realize that nearly all of the rest of children of illegals had no choice in whether to live in Texas or not. If they were brought there by parents who were illegal--how is that the child's fault? Is Romney ready to charge those children with crimes? Mass deportations? Even Romney has not pledged to go that far.
Maybe Mitt Romney somehow missed the point that Governor Perry's problem is one that the Federal Government created for him. By refusing to enforce current immigration law, the Obama administration has made life for border states unbelievably difficult. And in some cases the Federal Government is even attempting to choke out state's rights to react to border issues in any way whatsoever.
Maybe Mitt Romney is completely ignorant of what the reality of dealing with the border actually means--in real terms. Gov. Perry had to raise $400 million in state taxes to attempt to shore up the border and do the job that the Feds should be doing.
Or maybe Governor Romney believes he doesn't need any votes from legal Hispanics and legal immigrants who are wrestling with the real issue of being in a position where their family's future is in question.
But to set the record straight, it was the state of Texas, and most specifically its lawfully elected legislature that drafted the legislation and passed it with only 4 votes of 181 possible to vote against it. Yes, Governor Perry signed it into law, but it was a definitively bi-partisan initiative that the people of Texas clearly wanted to see become law.
Additionally, Governor Perry has actual compassion for these children who ended up in his state, outside of their own doing. Educating them gets them working and contributing to the state's treasury faster, and is more meaningful than letting them sit on the sidelines.
And despite what the unusually angry Rick Santorum offered, all the legislation did was allow those children (NOT ILLEGAL ALIENS AT LARGE) to get the same "starting point" in state institutions that all of their classmates got. The stupid argument that Romney and Santorum grew red-faced and spittle-spewing over didn't seem to hold true against Texas where non-Texan students would have to pay $88,000 more than other Texas-raised children. And states discriminate that way against other children from other regions of the country--all the time.
President Obama will need to re-energize the American Hispanic vote in order for him to win re-election. They had left him on the economy, and they were never with him on his values. But Mitt Romney--who vows allegiance to a church that had at its core a racist doctrine until only a couple of decades ago--is verging on alienating other ethnic groups, in part because he is not telling the truth about the Texas legislature's law to allow children (not illegal aliens who crossed the border--the children of) to simply pay the same amount of tuition as the kids they sit next to in class.
In short Perry knows this problem intimately. And it will be a cold day in Hades before he ever signs a federal version of the DREAM Act. He believes in fencing, technology, state's rights, and workplace incentives.
Which more or less means he believes in the same enforcement techniques as all the rest of the GOP field.
And for Santorum and Romney to pretend otherwise is sanctimonious and dishonest.
Did you read what you just wrote?
I read everything I write. More relevant questions would be why can’t you comprehend simple language and why do you think your circular argument gets you anything but labeled an inept tool?
Stupidity is not a virtue, son.
"Thanks but Rick Perry and the state of Texas cannot change the federal requirements necessary to apply for US citizenship. They can create all the state laws they want but an ILLEGAL alien cannot apply for citizenship which has to be done through the federal government.
Gnight
*Pop*
If anyone gives a **** I loved my father dearly
If there is a next time I see a technical error in one of your posts, I won’t point it out.
Freekin terms of endearment....
I’m not sure why you have that attitude, all I did was state as a fact that Perry and Texas cannot create state law that supersedes federal law. I appreciate your correcting me with a more recent version of the Texas law but that Texas law is invalid as it pertains to US federal immigration law.
Stick it bomby boy.
Illegals are more likely to be collecting US government checks than picking crops, despite the incessant latino propaganda. They use multiple identities to suckup numerous govt freebies, riding the US gravy train. Jose Madrigal, the Washington state rapist, had some 30 identities. Another illegal used multiple fake ID's to collect $3.5 million unemployment checks. Most of these "impoverished immigrants" pay several thousand dollars to establish multiple identities. They also get SS no's for anchor babies and use the no's themselves to suckup numerous US govt freebies.
RIDING THE US GRAVY TRAIN An illegal alien w/ wife and five children violates our borders. He gets a job mowing lawns for $5.00 or 6.00/hour. At that low wage, with six dependents, he pays no income tax, so each year, he files an Income Tax Return to get "EITC---earned income credit" of up to $3,200 scot-free. He qualifies for Section 8 housing and subsidized rent. He qualifies for food stamps and no deductible, no co-pay free health care. His children get free school breakfasts and lunches. The kids qualify for monthly SSI checks, faking ADD; the illegal and his wife get SSI if they fake being aged, blind or disabled; SSI qualifies them for Medicare. Plus illegals don't worry about pricey items like car insurance, life insurance, or homeowners insurance, and qualifies for relief from high energy bills.
NOTE WELL: Earned Income Tax Credit is available only to immigrant workers who obtain legal work status. But the law allows immigrants to claim EITC for up to three years prior to obtaining that status. Workers simply file a tax return for the years in which they were not legally eligible to work in the US. The most widespread abuse stems from the requirement that children live with the worker for more than six months of the year. IRS does little to verify the claim. Many immigrants claim non-existent children, or claim children who theyve left behind with relatives. Those with two or more children and income below $32,121 could get as much as $4,008. It is estimated that illegals got $22 billion.
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THE LUCRATIVE PHONY ID BUSINESS---DOCUMENTS FOR A PRICE July 21, 2006 -- Pelcastre brothers, Angel and Jorge, Dallas, Texas, were a walking threat to US national security, expert document forgers who, for a few thousand dollars, could give anyone a new identity.
The Texas brothers turned a NJ hotel room into a business office and were readying a massive cache of fake Social Security cards for delivery to a local NJ identity broker. The Texas brothers were a "one-stop shop" for a myriad of fake US documents, including birth certificates, Social Security cards, driver's licenses for any state in the US, passports and resident alien cards, said state police.
Officers happened upon two cars bearing Texas plates in a NJ hotel parking lot. Authorities wouldn't identify the NJ hotel by name for fear it would spark retribution from savage drug cartels operating in the US.
The Texas brothers were followed to a NJ office supply store nearby where they purchased computer supplies. Officers then followed the Texans to a NJ storage facility in Secaucus, NJ, where the Texans loaded several boxes into a car. One of them stood lookout.
L/E approached the Texas brothers when they returned to the NJ hotel and questioned them separately. The Texas brothers consented to a search.
Police recovered laminating sheets with built-in security features, pages of blank documents waiting for fake names and information, finished documents, computers and software to create the fake IDs.
All told, the haul was worth about $500,000 on the street. Police also recovered $6,000 in cash, which was the first payment from a NJ fake document broker for a shipment of 500 fake Social Security cards. ####
ACORN latinos praised Gov Perry for passing HB 1823, which allowed people to refinance and get traditional mortgages and be able to get out from under those nuisance subprime mortgages.
Q. So why didn't ACORN latinos have traditional mortgages in the first place? Ones like most working class Americans have....and pay off monthly? A. Because they did not qualify for those loans---but no one was allowed to utter such heretical words. Banks were sued into giving loans to anything that moved. If the applicant could breathe and make an X on an app they got a mortgage. No questions asked....not about jobs, residency, citizenship, ability to pay. Nada.
Conniving illegals (here for "a better life") flipped houses to family members at higher and higher prices, duping banks over and over, each family member making a bundle. Then the last illegal mtge holder absconded to Mexico--leaving US taxpayers holding the bailout bag. Senor Perry screwed tax paying Americans again ----allowing ACORN latinos to get a better deal, leaving working class taxpayers holding the bag for numerous defaulted mortgages.
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I can agree to disagree on issues, but being insulted is another matter. Twice in a row Perry went out of his way to insult conservatives.....the self-same people he needs to vote for him. Perry reinforced what he really believes-----only he is Truly Worthy. The rest of us are "racists" and "heartless."
PING to post #332
What? Declaring imminent domain over a swath of land, seizing it from law-abiding Americans for an infrastructure project? Why, that's shades of Perry's TTC!
You RINO, you!
;-P
If you did the same thing the illegals did, which is to go to a Texas school for three years, you *WOULD* get the exact same rate.
Perry and Cain are my two choices as well. If Cain can prove his durability, then I’ll have a difficult choice come primary season.
But it’s a choice that I’ll be happy to bear, as it’s been a *LONG* time since I haven’t had to hold my nose while in the voting booth.
Yep. Dang shame the Federal government ain’t doing a d@mn thing about it. Maybe Texas ought to submit a bill to the Federal government so they can pay it.
Wait... Perry tried that.
http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2011/08/27/perry-bills-feds-34m-for-incarcerating-illegals/
What a RINO, right?
Let me get this thread straight.
You believe a state governor should deport all illegals found in the state, correct?
I can agree with you here. I believe Perry wants to secure the border. I do not believe he wants amnesty. He is going to have to convince people of that though. He needs to do better, perhaps this bomb on stage at the debate will change things.
I can agree with you here. I believe Perry wants to secure the border. I do not believe he wants amnesty. He is going to have to convince people of that though. He needs to do better, perhaps this bomb on stage at the debate will change things.
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