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I'm posting this for all the hypocritical Paulers who are trying to use immigration as the red herring to bait and divide conservatives, to help Ron Paul.

The fact is that Ron Paul is an open borders guy and the Paulers don't care a bit about in-state tuition. I guess they don't care about Social Security or Obamneycare, either. They just want to divide and conquer, but the truth is that they are helping Mitt Romney.

1 posted on 09/25/2011 10:11:15 AM PDT by Eva
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There are only two candidates out there with extensive experience in creating a good environment for business. Herman Cain and Rick Perry. I guess those who are foaming at the mouth about immigration don’t really care if the country swirls around the toilet bowl, I guess they think we will continue to pay their unemployment, not working is easier then getting a job. Why not let China become our overlords.


2 posted on 09/25/2011 10:17:54 AM PDT by McGavin999
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I read the editorial yesterday in the WSJ. I get PO’ed every time I read about how “agriculture can’t fine enough workers” so they need illegals. How about, instead of paying Americans to sit on their a$$ collecting welfare, food stamps and unemployment, send them out to the farms to EARN their keep.

It’s ridiculous - we pay Americans to stay home while employing people that shouldn’t even be in this country. That’s not even to mention the taxpayer-funded free ride they get on top of their under-the-table wages. Enough is enough - deport, shoot, do whatever but GET THESE INVADERS OUT OF MY COUNTRY.

/rant...


3 posted on 09/25/2011 10:18:20 AM PDT by meyer (We will not sit down and shut up.)
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As I don’t subscribe , I can’t read the whole thing. If it’s at all honest, the editorial will have to take up the question of whether negative tropism ( i.e. the desire to escape butchery in Mexico) will replace positive ( U.S. economic opportunity) in the migrations ( among a # of considerations, like whether the Arizona law is a deterrent).


5 posted on 09/25/2011 10:21:44 AM PDT by gusopol3
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Why Aren’t Political Leaders Happy About Less Illegal Entry into the United States?

http://www.forbes.com/sites/stuartanderson/2011/09/25/why-arent-political-leaders-happy-about-less-illegal-entry-into-the-united-states/

In a Saturday editorial, the Wall Street Journal asked why aren’t politicians happy - or noticing - illegal entry into the Untied States appears to be much lower than at any time in recent memory?

The Wall Street Journal reports, “In the first 11 months of fiscal 2011, through August, U.S. Immigration and Customs Enforcement reports that apprehensions were 316,458, well below last year’s level.” As noted by the Journal’s editorial, this is a decline from 2008, 2009 and 2010.

The numbers are even more significant when compared to the year 2000, when apprehensions along the border exceeded 1.6 million. In other words, compared to a decade ago, illegal entry to the United States has fallen by nearly 80 percent.

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As discussed in earlier columns, at best E-Verify is likely to push more work “off the books” and underground, while at the same time creating a burden for U.S. workers, new regulations and increased liability for employers.


8 posted on 09/25/2011 10:25:23 AM PDT by Clairity ("The United States needs to be not so much loved as it needs to be respected." -- VP Dick Cheney)
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The decline is due to the fact this administration is not enforcing immigration law. The numbers can go down for more than one reason and some aren’t good reasons.


9 posted on 09/25/2011 10:25:37 AM PDT by Secret Agent Man (I'd like to tell you, but then I'd have to kill you.)
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A Labor Shortage? One common argument for not doing anything about illegal immigration or even for offering illegal immigrants amnesty is that there is a shortage of the type of labor provided by illegal immigrants. But if there was a shortage, then wages and employment should be increasing as employers try desperately to recruit new workers and retain the workers they already have. As already discussed, however, the opposite has been happening. Employment and wages have declined for the less-educated. Thus, there is no empirical evidence of a labor shortage. The only evidence of a labor shortage comes from employers of low-wage workers.

Jobs American Won’t Do? Another common argument for tolerating illegal immigration is that immigrants only do jobs that Americans don’t want. There are two fundamental problems with this argument. First, there are no jobs done only by immigrants. Of the 465 civilian occupations, only four are majority immigrant. These four occupations account for less than 1 percent of the total U.S. workforce. Most of the jobs often thought of as predominately immigrant jobs, are in fact overwhelming done by native-born Americans. For example, the American Community Survey from 2005 to 2007 showed that 55 percent of maids and housekeepers are U.S.-born, as are 58 percent of taxi drivers and chauffeurs, 63 percent of butchers and meat processors, 65 percent of construction laborers and 75 percent of janitors.8 It is simply makes no sense to argue that no Americans want such jobs when, in fact, most of the people doing this type of work were born in the United States.

The second problem with the argument that no Americans want these jobs is that wages, benefits, and working conditions have an enormous impact on the desirability of a job. If there really are jobs that Americans will not do at a given wage, then employers can improve compensation or working conditions to attract more workers. We can raise wages in low-wage sectors of our economy, secure in the knowledge that this will not spike inflation because the bottom of the labor market accounts for such a tiny fraction of total economic output. Employers who want access to cheap labor may argue forcefully that they need the workers, but the fact remains that improving compensation and working conditions is the primary way they should deal with this problem. They can also adopt different recruitment strategies or offer non-wage inducements to attract and retain workers, such as providing transportation or more flexible work hours. Allowing the free market to work in this way could significantly improve the labor market prospects for some of the working poor.


16 posted on 09/25/2011 10:30:57 AM PDT by kabar
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Department of Homeland Security, which reports that border apprehensions have dropped to their lowest level in nearly 40 years

That is the problem!! Apprehensions!! Just means the Dept. of Homeland Security isn’t doing it’s JOB!! NOT that there are fewer criminals. Yes..CRIMINALS..


21 posted on 09/25/2011 10:33:24 AM PDT by Gadsden1st
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That's the news from the Department of Homeland Security, which reports that border apprehensions have dropped to their lowest level in nearly 40 years. For fiscal 2010, arrests were 463,000, down from 724,000 in 2008—a one-third decline in two years.

Obviously there are other reasons why border apprehensions could be down.

I've had enough of the WSJ coming in on the wrong side of this issue.

22 posted on 09/25/2011 10:34:22 AM PDT by FreeReign
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"To listen to the recent Republican Presidential debates, you'd think illegal immigration was the biggest threat to the U.S. economy..."

That's because it is...one of them, anyway.

"That's the news from the Department of Homeland Security, which reports that border apprehensions have dropped to their lowest level in nearly 40 years."

And the WSJ trusts Nappy Ho's numbers? Sheesh...

Scouts Out! Cavalry Ho!

24 posted on 09/25/2011 10:35:29 AM PDT by wku man (Who says conservatives don't rock? http://www.bigdawgmusicmafia.com)
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I don't care how many fewer illegals are coming here! I care about the Tens of Millions already here!

If the government admits to 12 million illegals here, it is 50 million or more! If there's one button on my control board to nix a candidate, it is immigration. I have no sympathy for their tuition-needy children, their public trough parents, their grandparents or any of their relatives. I want them out of my country, period! How hard is that to understand?

27 posted on 09/25/2011 10:36:18 AM PDT by Gaffer
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Does anyone really believe anything the Department of Homeland Security has to say? They lie through their teeth by direction of the Secretary of the Department of Homeland Security.

The number of arrests are down because they just don’t arrest anymore. They detain and release.


28 posted on 09/25/2011 10:39:14 AM PDT by Crazy ole coot (obama was born a brit and is not a Natural Born Citizen)
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The mexicans have 4 1/2 percent unemployment. The USA has 9% unemployment.

Why is itthat the USA has to take mexican illegals.

Heck if we returned the productive trained middle class mexicans with their money — back to mexico — they would have a revolution in that country that would do them some good.

As it is, we’re only returning the trained criminals— in their thousands—which is progressively destabilizing Mexico.


29 posted on 09/25/2011 10:40:55 AM PDT by ckilmer (Phi)
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This will not save Rick Perry. Big Sis runs Homelame Security now. I don’t believe a word she says.

She considers conservatives more of a threat than illegal aliens.

I wish some of you would stop it. My sides hurt from laughing.


32 posted on 09/25/2011 10:42:10 AM PDT by dforest
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To listen to the recent Republican Presidential debates, you’d think illegal immigration was the biggest threat to the U.S. economy—not to mention to the rule of law, our social fabric and national security.

It is a great security threat and destabilizing our country! The other lie is that there is only about 12 million illegals when there is probably closer to 30 million!


34 posted on 09/25/2011 10:42:38 AM PDT by tallyhoe
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The Ron Paul people are right about illegal immigration.

If the illegals are legalized and the demographic shift continues apace— Texas is going to go the way of California —followed by Florida.

At which point republicans will be effectively shut out of national politics.


35 posted on 09/25/2011 10:42:42 AM PDT by ckilmer (Phi)
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The Wall Street Journal is known for its belief in the rule of law as it relates to strong border security policies.

Oh wait....


37 posted on 09/25/2011 10:43:31 AM PDT by Comparative Advantage
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Debunking the Perry Immigration Lie

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/2783520/posts


39 posted on 09/25/2011 10:43:46 AM PDT by Clairity ("The United States needs to be not so much loved as it needs to be respected." -- VP Dick Cheney)
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No Way, Jose (No Se Puede!) by 10 Pound Test

Scouts Out! Cavalry Ho!

40 posted on 09/25/2011 10:44:14 AM PDT by wku man (Who says conservatives don't rock? http://www.bigdawgmusicmafia.com)
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“That’s the news from the Department of Homeland Security,”

Fantastic...straight from the words of she-male Janet “the mexican border is safe” NUTtylitano. Don’t they have another Gibson Guitars to harass?


42 posted on 09/25/2011 10:44:49 AM PDT by max americana (FUBO NATION 2012 FK BARAK)
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Consider the source. The WSJ would like nothing more than to see illegal immigration fade as an issue.


57 posted on 09/25/2011 11:00:26 AM PDT by AdaGray
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