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“You equated adultery and homosexuality, not me.”

Not exactly true. All homosexuality is adultery. Not all adultery is homosexuality. The fact is that certain kinds of adultery, especially once accepted by society, are more damaging than others. We live in an age when the extremes of adultery are, more and more, being accepted as “normal.” They are not; and they never will be. Period. Clear enough!

However, I have lived long enough to know that there are quite a few people with very, very perverse sexual inclinations. As I said before, some fight them and some give in to them and try to justify them. The ones who give in and try to justify must be resisted, because what they do is to train others by their example to accept the abnormal as normal, when it is not. DADT, if rightly applied, would simply mean that one is to do one’s duty irrespective of their inclination. If they cannot, then they should be removed from the armed forces of the United States. Clearly, there are those presently in the armed forces who haven’t accepted this, and so have remained in the armed forces under false pretenses, and they have been used by certain politicians to gain political advantage even though it clearly is harming the country. This is wrong. And I hope that the whole issue will be re-examined and changed.

But to be homosexually inclined is one thing. To be homosexually active and encouraging of others to do similarly is something else. Homosexuality will never be moral, no matter how large a percentage of people say it is. In the same way to be a serial adulterer with the opposite sex will never be moral, no matter how many say otherwise. But unless we are going to become mind police, we can do nothing other than go by behavior and not inclination. As I understand it DADT means don’t ask if you think someone may be so inclined. It doesn’t mean don’t say anything if someone is acting out his inclinations. If I am wrong in this, I will take correction from someone who knows better, someone serving or having recently served in the armed forces who grasps what it is that I am saying.

You see, I am actually trying to keep this subject within the bounds of its proper application and not widen it so that we are no longer talking about the subject that has been raised in this thread. Do you understand that?

I am in favor of homosexuality? No. Do I think that homosexuality is somehow no worse in its damage to society than pedestrian varieties of adultery? No. Do I recognize the deep, ingrained problem of sin and corruption in all people? Yes. Do I also recognize the difference between God’s insight, understanding and authority to deal with all human failings and sins and man’s rather limited ability? Yes. Therein lies the problem.

As far as promoting the homosexual agenda in a stealth manner goes, you are beneath contempt to have suggested such a thing when no such evidence was present. Also, I don’t think I “agreed with some guy who said that homosexuality in the military caused no problems.” I don’t think he said that. I think he said that those who did their duty and followed the rules were left alone, even though everyone knew of their inclinations. If I am wrong in this understanding, let him correct me, not you.

In the same way, I knew at work years ago who was homosexual and who was not. As long as it didn’t interfere with their job performance or that of others, I left it alone. When that line was crossed, it was another thing entirely.

[I don’t think he said that. I think he said that those who did their duty and followed the rules were left alone, even though everyone knew of their inclinations. If I am wrong in this understanding, let him correct me, not you.]

If that is in reference to my previous post...[When I served in the military, we knew there were homosexuals in our ranks and you know what happened to them?

Nothing, they went about their jobs and we went about ours.]

There is no correction needed. Comradeship in the military is essential for many reasons but paramount is to be able operate effectively as a unit. If ‘active’ homosexual activity is condoned, the unit will be shattered.

The militant homosexual agenda within the ranks of our military has gained a foothold sanctioned and inspired from the very top of its structure.

From this point on, it’s totally in the hands of our top MILITARY officers to enforce the existing Department of Defense regulations without fear or intimidation.

All of them raised their hands and swore allegiance to protect our Republic against foreign AND domestic enemies.

If they choose to side step the enforcement of UCMJ Regulations and Code of Conduct out of fear of retribution, they should remove their uniforms they have dishonored and pursue a life free obligations and responsibility.

"But unless we are going to become mind police, we can do nothing other than go by behavior and not inclination. As I understand it DADT means don’t ask if you think someone may be so inclined. It doesn’t mean don’t say anything if someone is acting out his inclinations. If I am wrong in this, I will take correction from someone who knows better, someone serving or having recently served in the armed forces who grasps what it is that I am saying."

Since I have been helping run or running by myself the Homosexual Agenda ping list for 10 years on FR, not only have I read a tremendous amount about the homosexual agenda and the "gay" life, I have also heard from a large number of former and currently serving military.

Every one of them (except one guy who was a leftist who got banned, and seems to be back) said that homosexuals in the military are a HUGE FREAKING PROBLEM but the problem got MUCH WORSE under DADT. Because the homosexuals felt freer to "be themselves". How can someone who is mentally ill perform well in the military? They cannot. Someone who succumbs to adultery is commiting a sin, and according to the military code, a crime. But they are not by definition mentally ill.

Homosexuals, OTOH, are by definition mentally ill. IT is a psychological sickness, as well as a sin, and still currently, a crime in the military.

Now homosexual agenda pushers are pushing for trasnsgenders in the military. They will never stop. I know what I am talking about and you do not. Or you are promoting the agenda by stealth.

Also, I don’t think I “agreed with some guy who said that homosexuality in the military caused no problems.” I don’t think he said that. I think he said that those who did their duty and followed the rules were left alone, even though everyone knew of their inclinations. If I am wrong in this understanding, let him correct me, not you.

He said that the homosexuals caused no problems and you agreed with him. Countless freepers have commented on the threads and privately to me the grave and terrible problems homosexuals have caused in the military. One of the links I posted details that homosexuals cause 2/3 of the sexual offenses already - this is before they are now allowed openly. They are well known for forcing themselves on normal men and women.

You cannot deny this because the facts show me to be right and you to be wrong. Again if you are well meaning but ignorant I am sorry, but I am so angered and disgusted at the homosexual agneda destroying and perverting our schoolchildren, military and so many other aspects of our life - including our Constitutional freedoms of speech, religion and association - that I see great danger ahead. If you do not, either you need to open your eyes and learn, or you are part of the problem.