Posted on 09/23/2011 2:06:50 PM PDT by Cincinatus' Wife
ORLANDO, Fla. -- After putting in a disappointing debate performance the night before, Texas Gov. Rick Perry could take comfort on Friday in the ecstatic reception he got from a large crowd of conservatives meeting here to take a gander at the presidential field.
"As conservatives, we know that values and vision matter. It's not who's the slickest candidate or the smoothest debater that we need to elect," he told 500 attendees at the Conservative Political Action Conference. "Remember President Clinton? Man, he could sell ice cubes to Eskimos and the next day be against ice cubes."
The remark was a dig at Romney, who struggled with a reputation as flip-flopper on issues during his 2008 presidential campaign. And it also served Perry's purpose of portraying himself as the regular Joe in the campaign, in contrast to the "slickest" candidate, Romney.
Romney, who spoke before Perry at the event, received a warm welcome. But the crowd stood and cheered as soon as Perry took the stage at the Orange County Convention Center. The Texas governor accentuated his usual anti-Washington stump speech with references to former President Ronald Reagan, a conservative icon. "We need to push through to that shining city on the hill," Perry said. "As President Reagan said, we need bold colors, not pale pastels."
He also opened a new line of attack against President Obama, blasting him for proposing to charge retired military veterans $200 a year to stay on the Tricare-for-Life that supplements Medicare coverage. "Our veterans have already sacrificed enough for this country," Perry said. "Leave them alone."
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In a discussion as such, you’re either making an argument in support or against the topic at hand. The argument is made that because the South/Texas, et al, voted Republican for President long before it did so downballot as a “reasoning” for why Perry “must have” is far too broad to make. I already blew away that point about his home of Haskell County. They only voted GOP exactly twice before 2000, and only in the instances of the most sweeping anti-Democrat landslides. They didn’t even vote for a GOP candidate from their own state in 1988 or 1992.
The only thing supporters have to claim Perry voted GOP is a singular claim from a paid aide. When a man is a Democrat, elected as a Democrat, from a heavily Democrat county, helps Democrats to get elected, close friends with liberal Democrats, endorses Democrats, and opposes the agenda and legacy of the Republican he is “alleged” to have voted for, one would have to be either a liar or naive to somehow think that one can’t put 2 and 2 together. The weak defense by his supporters has never passed the smell test.
Good-Time Charlie and that ridiculous Hollywood movie well overstated his role, not to mention his alleged Conservatism. Charlie was voting over 90% liberal by the time he mercifully exited Congress (go check his ACU record). I just do continue to find this revisionist history about “Conservative” Democrats to be a hoot and a half. The fact that Perry supporters make 90%+ liberal Socialists like Charlie and Al Gore into “Conservatives” while denigrating Reagan as a “liberal” (!) is nothing short of appalling.
And yet Perry’s Haskell County voted unapologetically for Carter over Reagan by a wide margin in 1980. Reagan Democrat my ass. Oh, and they voted for Dukakis, too when Perry was a State Rep. You boys continue to deny the reality.
You are so correct!
The same pack of cutthroats on this forum would be saying and doing the same things to Reagan if he were running today. They also forget that Reagan was once a Democrat, signed Amnesty into law during his 2 terms and also catered to the Democrat majority he was saddled with throughout his Presidency.
I was not assuming he did vote a certain way or even a “must have” case. Go back and read - I was simply saying it was faulty to assume what some had assumed - which was that he voted the other way.
And why are you stalking me on a non related thread?
How am I “stalking” you ? This is a free and open discussion website. I reply to your comments, you reply to mine. When I see comments made that are erroneous, I seek to correct them with a proper response (in this case, your broad-based assumption about Southern voters that didn’t stand up to scrutiny where Perry’s Haskell County, Texas was concerned).
And more denigrations of Reagan by the Perrybots continue...
I’ll admit to a mistake, I saw Florida in the headline and thought you had transferred our conversation to a new thread today that also has Florida in the headline. So my bad on that.
Now on the issue, you still are missing my point - you are assuming I meant something that my words clearly do not mean - so let’s leave it at that.
Actually, I posted a graphic with a fork stuck in a chicken. But I do believe RINO Rick’s attacks on conservatives who do not agree with his instate tuition for iLLEGAL aliens has damaged his campaign and his chances.
So, the poll numbers for next week will be in a tailspin.
When did I mention RINO Rick's poll numbers? I haven't.
The 2012 election is 14 months away. I am “on record” as saying no one knows who the nominee will be. Do I think it will be Perry. Given his liberal record as governor of the state of Texas, I sure as hell hope not.
Perry’s support is dropping fast amongst base conservatives.
The context of my statement was this blog. Which is, supposedly, made up of base conservatives... but I question that sometimes.
Whatever his support is with RINO’s or independents is meaningless if base conservatives abandon him.
If the polls, next week, don’t accurately measure Perry’s “after debate” numbers with actual base conservatives, then you have nothing to bring me.
RINO opinions don’t matter because they will support Perry despite his warts.
Independents don’t matter because they make up their minds the night before as usual.
Good luck.
TX voted HHH in 1968, not Nixon.
I believe Perry says he did vote for GHWB in 1988, but I imagine that was hard for him to do since “Lord Bentsen” was on the Democratic ticket.
Wow, he sure did get a warm welcome! If you count second place in the straw poll, so far behind Herman Cain that Governor Perry’s already been relegated to loser status, as a warm welcome.
We already knew Perry was a faux conservative, a dyed-in-the-wool RINO. Now we see that Perry’s vaunted “electability” is just as fake as the rest of him.
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