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Getting Cash in Exchange for a Short Sale
New York Times ^ | September 22, 2011 | ANN CARRNS

Posted on 09/22/2011 12:27:31 PM PDT by reaganaut1

To avoid further clogging the already sluggish home foreclosure pipeline, some lenders have been offering cash incentives to strapped homeowners at risk of foreclosure to complete short sales and move out of their homes.

Chase, for instance, has been quietly offering as much as $35,000 to homeowners who are “upside down” on their loans — meaning, they owe more than the home is currently worth. In a short sale, the lender allows the sale of the home for less than the loan amount and often relieves the borrower of any further obligation.

The incentives began late last year and are available nationally, a Chase spokesman said. Why would the bank want to pay more money to a homeowner who hasn’t been keeping up with the mortgage payments? It generally wraps up the transaction much more quickly, and leaves the home in better shape for resale. “A short sale generally produces a better and faster result for the homeowner, the investor and the community than a foreclosure,” the Chase spokesman said in an e-mail. Chase has completed more than 140,000 shorts sales since the start of 2009. The program is continuing.

Wells Fargo also offers relocation incentives for short sales as well as “deed in lieu of foreclosure” transactions in some markets with extended foreclosure timelines, like Florida. The payments apply only to first-lien loans that Wells holds for its own portfolio (rather than loans it merely services for others), a spokesman said. The amount varies, based on factors like the loan balance and appraised value of the home, but can be as much as $20,000.

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TOPICS: Business/Economy; Crime/Corruption
KEYWORDS: deadbeats; foreclosures; shortsale; socialists; squatters; thieves
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A mortgage is a contract where one forfeits the house if one does not pay the mortgage. An honorable person would not become a squatter and demand tens of thousands of dollars to leave a house that is no longer his.
1 posted on 09/22/2011 12:27:34 PM PDT by reaganaut1
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To: reaganaut1

It appears the lenders are making offers. This much better than getting the government involved. And it may be the banks are using taxpayers money to do this.


2 posted on 09/22/2011 12:33:39 PM PDT by SeaHawkFan
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To: reaganaut1

Ha! That’ll work...not! No sale, unless they’re 25% of listings.


3 posted on 09/22/2011 12:34:39 PM PDT by familyop (Galt's not a real engineer. He's a global management p#ssy who depends on socialism to protect him.)
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To: reaganaut1
A contract is an agreement between 2 or more parties that can change the terms of the contract at will, if all parties agree.

/johnny

4 posted on 09/22/2011 12:41:56 PM PDT by JRandomFreeper (Gone Galt)
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To: reaganaut1

A contract is an agreement between parties, usually two. If the parties want to modify the contract, they can do so, unless the contract itself says they cannot.

In fact, one VERY conservative Federal Court judge, Richard Posner, has peddled an idea called the “theory of efficient breech”, whereby under certain circumstances the BEST thing for EVERYONE is to breech the contract, because EVERYONE comes out ahead.

A contract is not some kind of sacred document beyond modification by those who made it. In fact, mortal man can EVEN agree to discard a covenant made with G_d himself, should G_d be agreeable to a new covenant.


5 posted on 09/22/2011 12:42:06 PM PDT by Flash Bazbeaux
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To: reaganaut1

I sold some shorts at a yard sale once. I only got 50 cents for them, but the buyer paid cash...


6 posted on 09/22/2011 12:47:00 PM PDT by WayneS (Don't Blame Me, I voted for Kodos!)
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To: reaganaut1

“Chase, for instance, has been quietly offering as much as $35,000 to homeowners who are “upside down” on their loans — meaning, they owe more than the home is currently worth. In a short sale, the lender allows the sale of the home for less than the loan amount and often relieves the borrower of any further obligation.”

Does this not throw the overextended borrower into the clutches of the IRS directly with a tax bill for the amount the mortgage is reduced? Does not the IRS consider this income?

Some banks are forcing, have forced the reductions on homeowners mortgages without the homeowners consent, and have exposed the homeowners to the IRS liability.


7 posted on 09/22/2011 12:50:46 PM PDT by givemELL (Does Taiwan eet the Criteria to Qualify as an "Overseas Territory of the United States"? by Richar)
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To: givemELL

The money will be reported on a form 1099 as other income.

It is up to the taxpayer to pay the tax on it or not. The “not” part might get expensive, though.


8 posted on 09/22/2011 1:03:03 PM PDT by wrench
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That explains why two families in my neighborhood have moved back into the house they abandoned six months ago...maybe the bank hasn’t started foreclosure and they can get some free Obama dollars.


9 posted on 09/22/2011 1:06:14 PM PDT by sanjuanbob (Festina Lente)
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To: givemELL

Congress has passed laws that do not treat deficiencies as income.


10 posted on 09/22/2011 1:08:51 PM PDT by SeaHawkFan
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To: reaganaut1

Sure would be nice if those of us who worked hard to pay our mortgages, but are now underwater because of everyone who couldn’t dragging the market into the dregs, would get some incentives.

Instead, some analysis companies are flagging any home sales less than the previous owner’s mortgage as being “short sales” even though they’re legitimate sales in a severely depressed market.


11 posted on 09/22/2011 1:11:18 PM PDT by chrisser (Starve the Monkeys!)
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To: Flash Bazbeaux
Correct. As a supply chain manager, I modify contracts with suppliers when conditions so warrant it. There are times when I could legally insist on the contract language and force a supplier to sell material to us at a loss until it drives them out of business. Then, where am I going to get it? More importantly, if I act like that kind of jerk, who is going to want to supply me in the future?

Banks who treat their customers in the same ethical manner are less likely to have some government flunky like Bawney Frank legislate what they consider ethical.

12 posted on 09/22/2011 1:15:04 PM PDT by Vigilanteman (Obama: Fake black man. Fake Messiah. Fake American. How many fakes can you fit in one Zer0?)
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To: givemELL

I am nit a tax expert & this is not advice. My understanding is that in certain instances (first mortgage, primary residence) there is protection from liability for imputed income.

“The Mortgage Debt Relief Act of 2007 generally allows taxpayers to exclude income from the discharge of debt on their principal residence. Debt reduced through mortgage restructuring, as well as mortgage debt forgiven in connection with a foreclosure, qualifies for the relief.

This provision applies to debt forgiven in calendar years 2007 through 2012. Up to $2 million of forgiven debt is eligible for this exclusion ($1 million if married filing separately). The exclusion does not apply if the discharge is due to services performed for the lender or any other reason not directly related to a decline in the home’s value or the taxpayer’s financial condition.”


13 posted on 09/22/2011 1:27:13 PM PDT by 1malumprohibitum
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To: reaganaut1
An honorable person would not become a squatter and demand tens of thousands of dollars to leave a house that is no longer his.

The reality of a lot of foreclosed property is the residents vacate the premises up to a year or more before the bank resells the property. In the mean time the bank has to process the foreclosure through the courts, has to winterize the property, insure it, hire maintenance workers, and suffer losses from vandals and animals. Also, the house shows better when furnished. Keeping the people in the home until its sold could save them lots of money. On the other side, most families that are losing their home want to move on and get a stable place to live.

14 posted on 09/22/2011 1:27:51 PM PDT by Raycpa
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Is this a case where the homeowner was forced to buy PMI because they didn’t have the 20% down, and the PMI pays the bank the difference in what the sale brings in and the amount of the mortgage, them the PMI goes after the homeowner. I never thought PMI was really insurance and, thankfully, I never had to get it when I bought my house.


15 posted on 09/22/2011 1:28:18 PM PDT by OrioleFan
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To: givemELL

The house of cards - it’s collapsing.


16 posted on 09/22/2011 1:30:17 PM PDT by Brownie63
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To: reaganaut1

http://www.irsvideos.gov/CanceledDebt

So what is the difference between total COD and taxable COD? Here are the exceptions and exclusions that can account for the difference.
Exceptions are:

Amounts otherwise excluded from income
Certain student loans
Deductible debt, for taxpayers using the cash method of accounting, and
Price reduced after purchase

Exclusions are:

Bankruptcy
Insolvency
Qualified farm indebtedness
Qualified real property business indebtedness
Qualified principal residence indebtedness, and
Certain non-business debt of a qualified individual because of the Midwestern disasters


17 posted on 09/22/2011 1:35:13 PM PDT by Raycpa
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To: 1malumprohibitum

Thanks.


18 posted on 09/22/2011 1:44:52 PM PDT by givemELL (Does Taiwan eet the Criteria to Qualify as an "Overseas Territory of the United States"? by Richar)
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To: 1malumprohibitum

Yes.this happened to me. IRS says up to $250k single or $500k MFJ is not taxable as income in short sale of primary residence.


19 posted on 09/22/2011 1:56:50 PM PDT by time4good
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To: 1malumprohibitum

Yes.this happened to me. IRS says up to $250k single or $500k MFJ is not taxable as income in short sale of primary residence.


20 posted on 09/22/2011 1:56:50 PM PDT by time4good
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