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To: Red Badger; backhoe

There are a number of people out there who are convinced that the whole thing was a scam because the patents were running out on the common CFC refrigerants. R-11, R-12, R-22, etc.

I think backhoe is one of them.

I have my doubts about the matter as well.

We certainly shot ourselves in the foot on air conditioning energy efficiency on the changeover.


36 posted on 09/22/2011 4:36:42 PM PDT by FreedomPoster (Islam delenda est)
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We now know the CFC ban was based upon very bad science. They assumed the UV output from the sun was a constant. We now know that it varies up to 6 % during the solar cycle. And during the last minimum we just left, it was much lower then the previous minimum. Less UV means less ozone creation. So the holes should be very big and they are even though we have banned CFC’s. Look we are being ruled by cronies. Almost everything out of DC is a flat out lie utilized to raise money for the cronies. We will never see truth out of DC again. They will never admit the CFC ban was wrong, just as they will never admit that AGW was wrong.
38 posted on 09/22/2011 5:06:13 PM PDT by justa-hairyape
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I used to think that as well, but the patents had already run out decades before......


42 posted on 09/22/2011 6:20:44 PM PDT by Red Badger ("Treason doth never prosper.... What's the reason? Why if it prosper, none dare call it treason.")
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To: FreedomPoster; Red Badger; backhoe
There are a number of people out there who are convinced that the whole thing was a scam because the patents were running out on the common CFC refrigerants. R-11, R-12, R-22, etc.

I think backhoe is one of them.

I have my doubts about the matter as well.

We certainly shot ourselves in the foot on air conditioning energy efficiency on the changeover.


backhoe and others are correct. Amazing coincidence that the patents were running out presenting an opportunity for the interests of PC and crony capitalism to merge.
62 posted on 09/23/2011 11:19:49 AM PDT by algernonpj (He who pays the piper . . .)
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There are a number of people out there who are convinced that the whole thing was a scam because the patents were running out on the common CFC refrigerants. R-11, R-12, R-22, etc.

There was a book published in the early nineties called, "The Holes in the Ozone Scare," that pretty much said the CFC/Ozone hole thing was a scam.

67 posted on 09/23/2011 12:34:04 PM PDT by saminfl
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