Ever walked point? Does the term *dismounts in the open* have any meaning to you?
Here, take a little ride with TF 1-64, and watch the co-ax do most of the real work.
I guess these silly girls couldn't find their way to the desert...
Posted on 09/21/2011 10:08:59 AM PDT by smokingfrog
GREENWOOD, Ind.— Police in a suburb just south of Indianapolis are trying to decide what to do with six new fully automatic handguns the chief doesn't want.
The Daily Journal reports ( http://bit.ly/o5mbjQ )officials at the Greenwood Police Department don't know who ordered the Glock machine pistols. The guns can fire 33 bullets in seconds with a single trigger pull. Police Chief Rick McQueary says they're too dangerous to use for officers who must carefully consider every shot.
McQueary is refusing to pay for the guns because it's not clear why they were shipped to the department in the first place.
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***Didn’t some generals say the same thing about repeating rifles when they first came out?****
Some Civil war general named Ripley, didn’t want those new fangled breech loaders. He felt muskets were good enough for the troops.
Short bursts help, but practice, practice practice is the key, as it is with the full-auto .45 ACP Star modelo "M".
They're not all that bad in 9mm and certainly do have applications in certain situations, such as returning fire from an entire carload of armed hostiles at once.
And, as you say, a shoulder stock does indeed help, especially with sustained fire involving multiple magazine dumps, as in this 298-round session.
Plenty of full auto guns can be controlled...if you know what you are doing.
Maybe some part of the department is playing the game that an obscure, but armed, North Carolina organization did. Order some new toy/collectible, keep it in the safe for a year, then sell to members at a discount as “surplus”.
Ever walked point? Does the term *dismounts in the open* have any meaning to you?
Here, take a little ride with TF 1-64, and watch the co-ax do most of the real work.
I guess these silly girls couldn't find their way to the desert...
I recall a Bloomington, IN Sheriff a few years back doing something similar with a dozen or so Uzis and M3A1 greaseguns.
Wrong!
Post 86 IS very restricted, even NFA dealers have some trouble obtaining them.
And, there is NO SUCH THING as a “Type 3 permit”.
I am an 07/C2, so I could buy up to two of these, if the department would supply the necessary letter for ATF.
You my FRiend have caused a disturbance in the Force.
WWII about 20,000 rounds expended per kill.
Vietnam, about 250,000 rounds expended per kill.
CLEO, Chief Law Enforcement Officer.
Usually the chief, unless he assigns that responsibility to a subordinate.
Often the range/training officer will be authorized.
Random officer donut inspector will NOT be authorized to order such items.
If the department did not order them, BATFE-NFA should never have approved the transfer.
If they were ordered, the company and BATFE-NFA should both have a copy of the order.
Guess the surprise was on him - or rather his troops.
I remember reading that somewhere. I also remember reading that European generals, particuarly the Brits, felt it would be a waste of ammunition.
Custer’s men had single shot trapdoor springfields - a fine weapon. But they were undone in part by copper cartriges which jammed in the heated guns, and some repeaters in the hands of the Souix.
Was that a case of difficult terrain, or the ammo consuming behavior of the M-16, or poor marksmanship?
Peronally, I like the Garand. I guess the M-16 has its advantages in urban combat areas and in thick jungle where the fighting is up and close in your face. But I believe the Garand is better for long range shooting in open forests and fields as in Europe. But it did function very well in the Pacific Theater.
True, its a lot heavier, but in a bayonet fight I guess that provides an advantage.
At any rate, I love mine. It shoots better than I do.
must depend who you know-!
Technical Truck: “Ohhh sheeeeite!
***But they were undone in part by copper cartriges which jammed in the heated guns,*****
The Brits has the same problem at a little place called Isandlwana. Same ending as at Little Big Horn.
Gotta go with the police chief on this one.
Must be a shipping mistake. These things are next to useless, esp. for a cop.
Now if they were H&K MP-5Ks...
Good point. Both guns were pretty good actually once the cartriges were made of brass. I have a trapdoor and can fire it very quickly even though its a single shot.
I’m overwhelmed by your disrespectful, colorful retort and now realize that effeminate emotion trumps physics. The answer to defense against an attacker at 50 meters or more is to spew a short magazine of pistol rounds in the attacker’s general direction. Lifelong civilians and REMFs know best—especially those who’ve done much leisurely reading.
[Little irony and sarcasm there.]
R. Lee Ermy blamed a change in military philosophy combined with a less accurate weapon.
“I guess the M-16 has its advantages in urban combat areas”
I’d rather have an AK or at least the M-4 over the POS M-16. I hated that weapon. The M-9 was also junk.
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