Is it possible that this is not about tracking guns but about getting guns into Mexico?
This is really beginning to look bad, as if their is money changing hands over the border.
You are late to this story, I think.
Gunrunner was a program started under the Bush Admin that would allow firearm transfers to suspected gun traffickers. Those firearms all had GPS tracking devices inside and arrests were made shortly after the perpetrator left the store (to deliver the goods) or if they were close to the border.
In 2009, the program was altered and a new chapter, called Fast and Furious was started. This is where sales were forced by BATFE (the buyer failed the instant background check) even though the dealer was seeing the same people come back over and over again.
The firearms did not have tracking equipment in them and no effort was made to follow the firearms. Most crossed the border into Mexico (hence, some journalists called it Gun Walker).
It is now revealed that this program was not just in Phoenix, but in Florida and Indiana as well. Congress cannot get answers if it took place in Texas as well.
We have also found out that some of the criminals were paid government informants using taxpayer money to purchase firearms (even though they were convicted felons) and selling those firearms in Mexico to drug gangs.
When some BATFE agents raised concerns with their managers about allowing these firearms to escape into criminal hands, those managers told them (from an e-mail) "you have to break some eggs to make omlettes"
The DOJ was involved (they oversee the BATFE) and we know other departments were involved. All are blocking Congressional investigations into the matter.
There are e-mails and statements proving this program was known by people in the White House as well.
I think that summarizes the issue, but others may add more.
Ha...pallet loads of drug money can buy all the weapons you want
....grenades, IED's and rocket launchers were not in Fast and Furious but are used by the Mexican drug gangs.
This is a great thread from a couple of days ago.
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/2780177/posts
Cloward-Piven: The Ultimate Goal of Gunwalker?
To the best of my knowledge, no previous U.S. administration has ever destabilized the government of a putatively friendly foreign power purely for domestic political gain.
The closest you can get would be the revolutionary movement in what is now Panama, that the U.S. nurtured to gain that area’s independence (from Nicaragua) — to facilitate building the Panama Canal. But that was a pre-existing revolutionary movement with pre-existing complaints against the Nicaraguan government that did not include stopping them from selling illegal drugs. (Editor’s note: Panama gained its independence from Colombia, not Nicaragua.)
The gains Obama & Co. seem to be seeking come in three flavors. Ranked in order of time-criticality from their POV, they are most likely:
1. Short-term: Increased illegal immigration from Mexico as people attempt to flee the increasing violence (allowing them to push the DREAM Act through, and “stacking the deck” in the next election via ACORN and SEIU);
2. Medium-term: Propaganda for tighter gun laws (possibly enacted by Executive Order, bypassing the Congress);
3. Long-term: Legalization of “recreational drugs,” helped by a “drug friendly” Mexican government, influenced by if not overtly controlled by the drug cartels.
I strongly suspect that (3) is the ultimate objective, with (1) and (2) being seen (at least by Obama & Co.) as “stepping-stones” to attaining it.
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This is a great thread from a couple of days ago.
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/2780177/posts
Cloward-Piven: The Ultimate Goal of Gunwalker?
To the best of my knowledge, no previous U.S. administration has ever destabilized the government of a putatively friendly foreign power purely for domestic political gain.
The closest you can get would be the revolutionary movement in what is now Panama, that the U.S. nurtured to gain that area’s independence (from Nicaragua) — to facilitate building the Panama Canal. But that was a pre-existing revolutionary movement with pre-existing complaints against the Nicaraguan government that did not include stopping them from selling illegal drugs. (Editor’s note: Panama gained its independence from Colombia, not Nicaragua.)
The gains Obama & Co. seem to be seeking come in three flavors. Ranked in order of time-criticality from their POV, they are most likely:
1. Short-term: Increased illegal immigration from Mexico as people attempt to flee the increasing violence (allowing them to push the DREAM Act through, and “stacking the deck” in the next election via ACORN and SEIU);
2. Medium-term: Propaganda for tighter gun laws (possibly enacted by Executive Order, bypassing the Congress);
3. Long-term: Legalization of “recreational drugs,” helped by a “drug friendly” Mexican government, influenced by if not overtly controlled by the drug cartels.
I strongly suspect that (3) is the ultimate objective, with (1) and (2) being seen (at least by Obama & Co.) as “stepping-stones” to attaining it.
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