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Are Tax Havens Moral or Immoral?
Cato Institute ^ | 09/05/2011 | Daniel Mitchell

Posted on 09/20/2011 8:44:43 AM PDT by SeekAndFind

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1 posted on 09/20/2011 8:44:51 AM PDT by SeekAndFind
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To: SeekAndFind

The above was in response to a column which argues that TAX HAVENS are IMMORAL.

Read the column here :

http://www.independent.co.uk/opinion/commentators/paul-vallely-there-is-no-moral-case-for-tax-havens-2345096.html


2 posted on 09/20/2011 8:46:18 AM PDT by SeekAndFind (u)
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To: SeekAndFind

Income taxes are immoral.


3 posted on 09/20/2011 8:48:00 AM PDT by Retired Greyhound
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To: Retired Greyhound
Yep...let's start the discussion right there....
4 posted on 09/20/2011 8:52:11 AM PDT by rightwingextremist1776
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To: Retired Greyhound

RE: Income taxes are immoral.

How does government get its revenue to function then?


5 posted on 09/20/2011 8:52:11 AM PDT by SeekAndFind (u)
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To: SeekAndFind
INCOME taxes ARE NOT to raise money....income tax exists to empower the government to manipulate society....not to mention one of the most important steps in the COMMUNIST manifesto.
6 posted on 09/20/2011 8:54:37 AM PDT by rightwingextremist1776
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To: Retired Greyhound

Yes, income taxes, and many other taxes are IMMORAL. So, tax havens are moral responses to an immoral situation/government.


7 posted on 09/20/2011 8:56:29 AM PDT by Former Proud Canadian (We .. have a purpose .. no longer to please every dictator with a vote at the UN. PM Harper)
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To: SeekAndFind

According to Harry Reid income taxes are voluntary. Is it immoral not to volunteer.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=H6q0slMhDw8


8 posted on 09/20/2011 8:56:49 AM PDT by DManA
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To: SeekAndFind
How does government get its revenue to function then?

How did we manage until 1913?

9 posted on 09/20/2011 8:57:26 AM PDT by Retired Greyhound
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To: SeekAndFind

There are not two equal sides to every question.

Separate sovereign nations are moral. Since they are sovereign, they often have different tax structures.

No long drawn out screed which seeks to sidestep or obscure this has any merit, nor does its author.


10 posted on 09/20/2011 8:58:49 AM PDT by MrEdd (Heck? Geewhiz Cripes, thats the place where people who don't believe in Gosh think they aint going.)
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Most taxes and fees are immoral. Why do we have to pay taxes to a system where IRS leader is a tax cheat. Ted Kennedy took the Kennedy fortune offshore to avoid taxes. Dashel had to pay $100,000 he “missed”.
11 posted on 09/20/2011 9:00:34 AM PDT by mountainlion (I am voting for Sarah after getting screwed again by the DC Thugs.)
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To: rightwingextremist1776; SeekAndFind
INCOME taxes ARE NOT to raise money....income tax exists to empower the government to manipulate society....not to mention one of the most important steps in the COMMUNIST manifesto.

What HE said. Ditto.

Excise, import, consumption taxes - all would raise money to run the constitutional necessary functions of government, without giving the government the ability to manipulate society and pick winners and losers.

12 posted on 09/20/2011 9:01:23 AM PDT by MrB (The difference between a Humanist and a Satanist - the latter knows whom he's working for)
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To: mountainlion

RE: Most taxes and fees are immoral

OK, let’s say they are... how does government get its revenue in order to function then?

WHAT SHOULD TAKE THE PLACE OF TAXES?


13 posted on 09/20/2011 9:02:05 AM PDT by SeekAndFind (u)
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To: Former Proud Canadian

I know of a graduate student in MIT from Taiwan who inherited money back home BEFORE he came to America and has the inherited money deposited in a Taiwanese bank earning interest. Quite substantial amount too.

After getting his graduate degree, He worked for a Silicon Valley company after graduation and became a permanent resident two years ago ( a green card holder ). He pays taxes on his income from his salary here in the US.

He is now in a dilemma — because according to our tax code, he has to declare income FROM ALL SOURCES.

Is it immoral and criminal of him if he did not declare the interest income he gets from the money deposited in a bank account in Taiwan under his Chinese name? ( THAT WAS EARNED BY HIS PARENTS AND NEVER ENTERED THE US AT ALL ).

This is a very important question because MANY hard working LEGAL immigrants, who never depend on government largesse are asking themselves the same question.... many have money deposited back home BEFORE they came to the US. Does Uncle Sam have a moral claim to that money?


14 posted on 09/20/2011 9:09:38 AM PDT by SeekAndFind (u)
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To: SeekAndFind

See: “Taxes for Revenue are Obsolete” by Beardsley Ruml


15 posted on 09/20/2011 9:09:49 AM PDT by eyeamok
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To: eyeamok

You forgot to provide the link :

http://hiwaay.net/~becraft/RUMLTAXES.html

And for the benefit of those who don’t know.... this article was published 65 years ago.


16 posted on 09/20/2011 9:11:55 AM PDT by SeekAndFind (u)
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To: SeekAndFind

“How does government get its revenue to function then?”

How did they do it before the imposition of the income tax?


17 posted on 09/20/2011 9:19:40 AM PDT by chooseascreennamepat (I have a liberal arts degree, do you want fries with that?)
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To: MrEdd

So ... you’re saying that it’s perfectly moral for these sovereign countries - the so-called tax havens - to have different tax structures from the US.

Glad we agree!

Other countries compete on taxes. In a perfect world the US would make its tax regime attractive enough to keep its taxpayers. But instead the tax code keeps getting more abstruse and more onerous, and the IRS are equipped with their own SWAT teams.

Way to go, land of the free.


18 posted on 09/20/2011 9:20:24 AM PDT by agere_contra ("Debt is the foundation of destruction" : Sarah Palin.)
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To: MrB

Only problem is, the supreme courts of old saw “income taxes” AS excise taxes and the IRS still does today.


19 posted on 09/20/2011 9:20:24 AM PDT by Michael Barnes (Obamaa+ Downgrade)
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To: SeekAndFind

I didn’t actually forget, I find people get more out of learning when they are interested enough to actually track down the information once given a direction. And yes it is a very old article by then Fed Chairman, but still very relevant, as are numerous others.


20 posted on 09/20/2011 9:23:33 AM PDT by eyeamok
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